Woodies CCI

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by osho67, May 2, 2005.

  1. stock777, do you personally trade the ER?
     
    #171     Feb 12, 2007
  2. shovel52

    shovel52

    exactly what I am talking about. We are talking about Woodie
    here right? My comment about "blink of an eye decision making
    is to be taken with a grain of salt. The way it was meant.
    As far as Woodie, No one heard me say he is 100% profitable.
    Very seldom did I see him make a 100% day. He is just a majority winner. Interesting that someone had a difference experience
    in Woodies room. I don't know what you were watching that was different! Hope you have found something better that works for you! As far as everyone else, The only way you can find out is to try it for a while. "reccomended!
     
    #172     Feb 12, 2007
  3. My note was not to diminish Woodie's success in any way, at all. I have a lot of respect for him and all he's done in life. The only question I asked was if an average daily gain of +$150 per ER contract was considered unusual or extreme performance.

    Obviously, most emini traders would think that's terrific. Most emini traders are not profitable. We are talking about a skilled, experienced, veteran trader. Any degree of profitability is admirable, as I said. To average +$150 per ER contract does not seem worthy of bragging rights imo.

    Job well done? Certainly? Awe-inspiring? You decide
     
    #173     Feb 12, 2007
  4. You couldn't prove he is a majority winner by me. I'm still in the camp that he is a great salesman only. Anyone who is able to create a "cultlike" status without proving he can deliver the goods has certainly got that part down cold.
     
    #174     Feb 12, 2007
  5. shovel52

    shovel52

    Sorry Austin I can't answer that. As per my comment about
    "blink of an eye", It's obvious I was not profitable at daytrading
    emini contracts. Every thing happens too fast and youv'e waited all morning for the setup and bang it's gone and your worn out.
    However Woodie has several moderators that traded up to 10
    eminis' and they would tally after each session. I was overall
    impressed with his moderators also. He also had an end of day
    trader in a nother room that would lead you through his setups
    each day, This guy would knock your socks off. I never found out how he scanned for a "ghost" "zlr" etc. on an end of day basis.
    As far as I am concerned too whoever,Yes it does seem like a cult
    doesn't it? It could be that a lot have people have found free trading room with a very nice setup.
     
    #175     Feb 12, 2007
  6. Well, for comparison sake, I have a friend who trades the NQ intraday and averages roughly +20pts per session. That is +$400 per contract average.

    Today he only managed +11pts, but some other days he banks +25 to +30pts.

    This guy is just a home-based trader, unknown and happy to remain that way. There are a lot of people just like him out there.

    That said, let's forgo the usual tired mantra about how such performance will eventually yield $$$ one billion extrapolated into the future with pyramiding. Comparing a top fund manager's performance to a skilled individual trader is akin to judging my Seadoo boat's top-end speed with an ocean liner's.

    Such performance is based on short-term intraday trades with NQ... pushing more than 50 contracts at a time would greatly negate performance on slippage.

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    I'm not knocking $150 average per any emini contract, at all. Based on what I've seen some skilled private traders do, $150 per contract is not earth shattering, it is admirable.
     
    #176     Feb 12, 2007
  7. Razor

    Razor

    I would personally love to avg. $150 per any emini contract per day as would many
    still under construction traders would :D
     
    #177     Feb 12, 2007
  8. Yes, I agree. Trading 10-lots ER averaging +1pt per day will meet anyone's reasonable ends, if you ask me.
     
    #178     Feb 12, 2007
  9. NQ trades 300k++ a day, and you can also trade the QQQQ, so I fail to see how 50 contracts is even noticed, no less a 'slippage problem.

    500 maybe, but 50?
     
    #179     Feb 12, 2007
  10. Shovel,

    You hit the point on the head and then bypass it. No one nails those trades as they don't exist -- blink of an eye indeed. You didn't miss anything.

    It's all smoke and mirrors and that's why people like me want to see audited records of Woodie's trading -- and why they never appear.

    Regards,

    Sam
     
    #180     Feb 12, 2007