Winners: US military, President Bush, UK, Tony Blair, Kurds, Shiites, Kuwait, Spain and "New Europe" supporters of US/UK, possibly Iranian citizens. Losers: Saddam, French, Germany, Russia, Turkey, Syria, UN fatcats, Daschle, Pelosi, Al Jazeera. The www.francestinks.com site has some interesting articles detailing how the French and Germans blackmailed Turkey into denying access for our troops. Turkey's reward will be a well-armed and hostile Kurdish state on their border with US protection. They will never be accepted in the EU in any event.