Will Trump win re-election

Discussion in 'Politics' started by fan27, Oct 30, 2020.

Will Trump win re-election?

Poll closed Nov 3, 2020.
  1. Yes

    24 vote(s)
    61.5%
  2. No

    15 vote(s)
    38.5%
  1. No one cares. Biden is corrupt. Trump is corrupt. Pelosi is corrupt. McConnell is corrupt.

    This election is a referendum on Trump, and the American people are about to deliver a well-deserved "you're Fired!" because of his lack of ethics and his authoritarian heavy handedness.

    The Fox/Trump alt-right whatever still believes this is a choice between Trump and Biden and therefore still are trying to do to Biden what Comey did for them last time around with Clinton. But it isn't working, because Americans really don't care about Biden so much as they care about being rid of President Trump. There is polling that backs this up. Only 40% of Biden voters say they are voting primarily for Biden while 60% say they are simply voting against Trump. Compare this to the Trump voters where 80% are voting for Trump and only 20% voting primarily against Biden.

    That is the crux of this election: It does not come down to voter enthusiasm for their candidate. it comes down to do you believe Trump deserves another four years. Well, America is taking him to the board room on Tuesday and we are about to find out whether he goes back to the Presidential suite or if he takes that lonely elevator ride to the dustbin of history.
     
    #71     Nov 1, 2020
  2. I voted for Bush in 2000 and I wrote in @Baron in 2004 ... Bush lost me with the Iraq War which was so obviously him flexing his muscles to go after Saddam because Saddam had disrespected Bush's daddy.

    This election is not going to be one by Red voters vs Blue voters. This election will be decided by those of us in the middle who are sick and tiired of Trump tearing down the Republic while those on the radical right play Sargent Schultz and those on the radical left see a KGB agent behind every tweet.

    Y'all both nuts.
     
    #72     Nov 1, 2020
  3. You really need to step out of the echo chamber. Unless by "legitimate" you mean only the ones Trump wants counted and not all the ballots cast by duly registered citizens of the United States of America.
     
    #73     Nov 1, 2020
  4. Trump should have governed on the platform he ran on and he'd have been a cake walk to reelection. His problem is he didn't plan on winning as he ran as a branding strategy. When he won, rather than drain the swamp he hired the chief swamp creatures to run his administration for him. Trump was fooled by the likes of Reince Preibus, Paul Ryan, and Mitch McConnell. They had Trump govern primarily as a tax cutting judge appointing neo-conservative rather than as the populist he beat the Republican field with in the primary.

    Sad really. Trump would never have been a good man. But he could have been a good president.
     
    #74     Nov 1, 2020
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  5. Final statement on the Republican Party of today: It had been and still will cry out for state's rights. But when the state's exercise of its right to protect the right to vote of citizens doesn't suit the Republicans, they go running to Big Brother Federal to take their backs. Hypocrites.
     
    #75     Nov 1, 2020
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  6. “Tearing down the Pepublic”. Really interesting choice of words you have there.

    What is your opinion of Radical Leftist led riots in many of our major cities, especially Blue states? How might you imagine an affected business owner, his employees, and his sphere of influence feel?

    While Trump may have his issues, destroying America is not one of them.
     
    #76     Nov 1, 2020
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  7. Unless there is some indisputable bombshell tomorrow I believe Trump will lose the election. He will lose not because people love Biden, or because they hate Trump. He will lose because people are accessing risk in the near term, real risk, not political talking point risk. A Biden victory brings the possibility of "packed courts", 4 more senators for DC and Puerto Rico, higher taxes, a list of silly assed social programs, etc., etc., but nothing imminent. A Trump victory brings the probability of a total economy crushing lockdown and mob violence for a duration as we have never seen. These probabilities are imminent. So we ask ourselves what is the real risk to us in the coming days and weeks. Four years of more stupid asses democratic policies, or loss of jobs, homes, businesses, safety in the streets while going about our everyday business, a quite dramatic change in how we live?
    For all the hype and bluster about civil wars that is not what Americans want. Trump loses as a result and we continue the slide towards democratic socialism that we've been on for decades. People just want a job, roof over their head and some semblance of safety. A Trump victory does not deliver that short term, and short term is all we ever consider.
    The world will keep on turning, but the howls of Armageddon will be shouted louder than ever.
     
    #77     Nov 1, 2020
  8. Not an original thought to be found there.
     
    #78     Nov 1, 2020
  9. Based on the polling, the only swing state I see Trump outperforming his results from 2016 is NV. I imagine this has to do with the state's tourism-centric economy and the fear that Biden will shut us down. FL looks to be similar to 2016 and appears to be a nail biter. NC, AZ, MI, WI, and PA all look like they've flipped. OH and GA are at risk of flipping. IA and TX look like small Trump wins. One state that's interesting is MN, because there hasn't been as much focus on it even though it was really close in 2016 and some of the less reputable polling companies have shown a close race. Also note that both candidates have gone there in recent days.

    Interestingly, NC, GA, and IA are likely to decide who controls the Senate at this point. It appears that IA looks the most likely for the GOP senator to hold. GA is more in play after the disastrous debate by Perdue. NC looked like it was going to Cunningham, but he's below 50% in recent polls and it's interesting to see how his affair will impact the race. Other interesting races that could flip to the Dems are MT and SC. I'm not buying KY, MS, KS, or AK flipping.
     
    #79     Nov 1, 2020
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    c'mon man

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    #80     Nov 1, 2020
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