Will the S&P go to 1000 or 1200 ?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by fly down, Sep 9, 2010.

will the S&P hit 1000 or 1200 first?

  1. 1000

    60 vote(s)
    39.0%
  2. 1200

    80 vote(s)
    51.9%
  3. I cannot give an answer at this time

    14 vote(s)
    9.1%
  1. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    The facts are you are clueless. The proof of this would be easy. Simply post the majority of your posts on this site where there is any "commentary" concerning market direction or value. Cross reference this list by the S&P 500 closing balance that day.

    Now note the sheer repetitiveness of your words and how you ignore news and earnings. Then you claim something about fundamentals you cannot deny.
     
    #301     Oct 21, 2010
  2. This rally does have fundamental support. Taxpayer-funded Fed manipulation is a legitimate fundamental support. That you can't see that, is stupid. You're mixing opinion with reality. Stop dreaming and start seeing the reality!
     
    #302     Oct 22, 2010
  3. Humpy

    Humpy

    Any drop is likely to be a smallish pullback in my humble opinion

    I can see it motoring on and on - 1250s - yup easily

    :)
     
    #303     Oct 22, 2010
  4. MKTrader

    MKTrader

    failed_trad3r / Rear Ender / All your other screen names:

    Go get some pysch help. You need it. There's no point discussing this further. But I'll give it one last shot: manipulated rallies never last. See Japan's attempts at QE since 1990. Stocks can rally longer with hyperinflation (see Zimbabwe), but only with horrifying trade-offs.

    "Strong earnings" are largely a product of cost-cutting/automation and "low-ball" estimates (I thought everyone understood that game, but I continually underestimate the ignorance here). Steady, long-term growth, especially the kind that will lead to job growth, isn't in the picture at all right now.

    But don't just take my word. Here's a real money manager who has strongly outpeformed the S&P 500 for almost 10 years and has a Ph.D. in Economics (and isn't a Keynesian shill):

    http://hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc101018.htm

    Unemployment is hovering around 10% and is closer to 20% using early 1980s computations. Housing is still a huge mess. You can't have a booming economy in this situation, regardless of heavily-massaged, hedonically-adjusted gov't data.

    Without the QE2 hype & the Fed coming in three times a week to dump billions in the system, this rally wouldn't have any legs. It doesn't hurt that the SEC selectively decides which short trades to cancel, either.
     
    #304     Oct 22, 2010
  5. were at S&P 1180 from 670. If you call that fake, then you're a lousy trader, and nobody should listen to you.
     
    #305     Oct 22, 2010
  6. MKTrader

    MKTrader

    FWIW, I was long for the bulk of the rally since March '09. But good job not engaging any of the points. I figured it was all well above your pay grade.

    As for the recovery and rally being "fake," the article I linked summed it up nicely:

    "One of the arguments for quantitative easing is the notion that the Fed's purchase of $1.5 trillion of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac debt somehow 'pulled the U.S. economy back from the abyss' of a Depression. But a closer examination of the past 19 months suggests that a much more specific mechanism - suspension of truthful disclosure - was actually the key element. Unfortunately, the benefits of this suspension are also impermanent, because the underlying solvency problems have been left unaddressed."
     
    #306     Oct 22, 2010
  7. Well said. What type of psycho needs 2 different aliases for the same thread ??!!
     
    #307     Oct 22, 2010
  8. volente_00

    volente_00


    The kind that has started 50 threads since 2004 about the S&P topping that have all been wrong under ever single alias they have ever used



    jamestock
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    #308     Oct 22, 2010
  9. S2007S

    S2007S

    Once they get the dow into positive territory its all up from there straight into the close, within the next few hours all indexes should be close to .5%, they will not let this market close down on the week.
     
    #309     Oct 22, 2010
  10. S2007S

    S2007S

    Tentative Outright Treasury Operation Schedule
    Across all operations in the schedule listed below, the Desk plans to purchase approximately
    $32 billion. This is the amount of principal payments from agency debt and agency MBS expected to be received between mid-October and mid-November.
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    Operation Date1

    Settlement Date

    Operation Type2

    Maturity Range


    October 15, 2010

    October 18, 2010

    Outright Treasury Coupon Purchase

    10/31/2014 – 9/30/2016



    October 18, 2010

    October 19, 2010

    Outright Treasury Coupon Purchase

    10/31/2016 – 8/15/2020



    October 20, 2010

    October 21, 2010

    Outright TIPS Purchase

    1/15/2011 – 2/15/2040



    October 22, 2010

    October 25, 2010

    Outright Treasury Coupon Purchase

    4/15/2013 – 9/30/2014



    October 26, 2010

    October 27, 2010

    Outright Treasury Coupon Purchase

    2/15/2021 – 8/15/2040



    October 28, 2010

    October 29, 2010

    Outright Treasury Coupon Purchase

    4/15/2012 – 3/31/2013



    November 1, 2010

    November 2, 2010

    Outright Treasury Coupon Purchase

    4/15/2013 – 9/30/2014



    November 4, 2010

    November 5, 2010

    Outright Treasury Coupon Purchase

    10/31/2014 – 9/30/2016



    November 8, 2010

    November 9, 2010

    Outright Treasury Coupon Purchase

    10/31/2016 – 8/15/2020
     
    #310     Oct 22, 2010