Will Rummy Survive?

dougcs · May 10, 2004

Since the prisoner scandal broke, Bush has shown support for Rumsfeld on several occasions.

So, how long till Rummy takes one for the team and gets fired?

DS

AAAintheBeltway · May 10, 2004

Unlikely I would say. The Bushes are ver loyal to their people, overly so some would say. In this case I think it is a little unfair to blame Rumsfeld. The brass do not like him, and I can't rule out their letting this scandal simmer in an effort to get him.

grimer11 · May 10, 2004

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dougcs · May 10, 2004

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Unlikely I would say. The Bushes are ver loyal to their people, overly so some would say. In this case I think it is a little unfair to blame Rumsfeld. The brass do not like him, and I can't rule out their letting this scandal simmer in an effort to get him.
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I did not intend to blame Rumsfeld as I have no idea how directly responsible he may be.

I was wondering if the scandal politically is too great a problem for Bush's reelection that Rummy becomes the scapegoat for this.

DS

aphexcoil · May 10, 2004

Quote from dougcs:

I did not intend to blame Rumsfeld as I have no idea how directly responsible he may be.

I was wondering if the scandal politically is too great a problem for Bush's reelection that Rummy becomes the scapegoat for this.

DS
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Good question. As much as I'd hate to see him go, I do think at some point he will resign. If more pictures come out and put a bad taste in the mouths of Americans, Bush will have no choice but to replace his defense secretary.

Then again, if this is not a systematic problem, there may be a chance that this administration can do enough damage control to keep the situation from getting overly volatile.

AAAintheBeltway · May 10, 2004

Quote from dougcs:

I did not intend to blame Rumsfeld as I have no idea how directly responsible he may be.

I was wondering if the scandal politically is too great a problem for Bush's reelection that Rummy becomes the scapegoat for this.

DS
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Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you personally were blaming him. I just meant the press and political opponents.

candletrader · May 10, 2004

Personally, I think Rummy is a true professional.... whether or not I agree with his policies, he is certainly committed to his job...

Rearden Metal · May 10, 2004

It's a pity that Ashcroft wasn't chosen as the scapegoat du jour instead.

candletrader · May 10, 2004

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It's a pity that Ashcroft wasn't chosen as the scapegoat du jour instead.
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Interesting point, Rearden...

Madison · May 10, 2004

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Rumsfeld will almost certainly survive because President George W. Bush's political fortunesâat least for the momentâdemand that he survive.

If Bush fires Rumsfeld, he would be admitting that he'd made a mistake in keeping Rummy onboard for so long or in hiring him for the job to begin with. Somewhere along the line, someone (Karl Rove?) advised Bush never to admit making a mistake. Up to a point, this was sound advice. To the extent Bush gets high marks in polls, they are chiefly for such traits as confidence, conviction, and consistency. He has to appear righteousâand rightâto maintain these marks. For him to dump Rumsfeldâespecially after saying several times that he'd keep him in his cabinetâwould erode his entire image. The basis of his attacks on John Kerry (that he's a "flip-flopper") would seem hypocritical; the edifice of his re-election campaign could crumble.

If a president's (or presidential candidate's) most appealing slogan is, "I say what I mean and I mean what I say," the appeal starts to wash away if he changes his mind and retracts his words, especially if he does so under pressure.

Bush has other pressing reasons to keep Rumsfeld. Who would replace him? The Pentagon would be thrown into turmoil. By the rules of succession, the deputy secretary of defense would step up as acting secretary. But the deputy, Paul Wolfowitz, has even less credibility on Capitol Hill. In fact, Rumsfeld's entire inner circle is taintedâif not by the Abu Ghraib scandal, then by the controversies over the Iraq war and the "stovepiping" of false intelligence that led up to it. Confirmation hearings for a new secretary would be a golden opportunity to revisit each of these controversies in great detail, with an election just months away.

One more crucial factor: Rumsfeld, by all accounts, is a bureaucratic brawler. He will not go gently. He did not give up a lucrative executive's life and return to government in order to get tarred, feathered, and railroaded out of town. He also has a strong ally in Vice President Dick Cheney. The two worked side by side for Presidents Nixon and Ford; they have been constant allies in the internecine struggles of this administration. If Bush dumps Rumsfeld, he couldn't do so without Cheney's consent. Then watch out for the hellstorm.

No administration in recent memory has been so plagued by the parting shots of disloyal servants. Judging from the astonishing piece in the latest GQ, Secretary of State Colin Powell is now so disgruntled that he's authorizing his closest aides to trash his enemiesâRumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney, and Condoleezza Riceâin the harshest terms and on the record. Look for Rumsfeld to start trashing, too, if he's rudely shown the door. (This may also explain why George Tenet survives. Many presidents have learned the wisdom of treating CIA directors gently.)
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