Will i ever get it.

Discussion in 'Journals' started by note, Dec 17, 2014.

  1. ExperiencedJoe : is there a place where all these steps are gathered?
    Also, what about the 80%+ of funds that lose money : did they not follow the steps?
     
    #291     Jan 10, 2015
  2. I remember Warren Buffet wrote somewhere ( though he is an investor, but after checking compounding it has some validity for trading) :
    Rule1: don't lose money
    Rule2: don't lose money
    Rule3: see rule1

    Sooner or later a retail trader will start losing money.
    The real problem for retail is "how to lose", aka "losing to win".

    Now, there are tons of trading plans out there, even software and signals.
    My advice for a retailer is to get one of these, start with a tiny account, work on their mistakes, and keep practicing. It is a question of time till the circuits linked to whatever
    plan the trader has chosen build up in the brain.
    The retail trader might as well exploit his best "tool" : his nervous system circuit.
    The difficulty : discipline. Hence psychology work fully recommended.
     
    #292     Jan 10, 2015
  3. londonkid

    londonkid

    EJ I have observed your posts. You are a troll. No hedge funds dont follow well defined steps, the majorty lose money and shut down. Are you aware of survivorship bias? Trading is NOT like every other business. Does every other business require you to earn money from your competitors? Let's say I open a pizza takeaway business. Does my turnover come from the losses of other pizza shops?
     
    #293     Jan 10, 2015
  4. Sure there are places. Warren buffet's house has these steps in it. They are also at various hedge fund's offices. I have them too. This is why I considered the the idea of the non-existence of them ridiculous. How can what I have and hold be not there ?

    I have no idea how many hedge funds fail. If you have a source then link them here. I am not going to take your word for it.

    Funds can fail for various reasons other than trading. Not being able to find investors could be a major one.
     
    #294     Jan 10, 2015
  5. londonkid

    londonkid

    I used to think this also. Yes psychology and discipline are important if you have a small edge. If you have a real solid edge though this psychology and discipline mantra is way over blown. Imagine having an 80%+ edge. simple 1:1 RR and basic money management will reap large profits. even if you have a few lapses of discipline you will likely do fine. Personally I would counsel new traders to focus on game selection and edge.
     
    #295     Jan 10, 2015
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  6. Do people think personal attacks improve their case ? I don't believe so. If true, I'd like to see evidence. So I don't understand why you deliberately weaken your own case. It's neither logical nor wise, nor beneficial to your own interest.

    Your pizza shop would earn its money from the customers. The market shop earn their money from their customers, meaning you and others like you. Is the parallel now clear ?

    The pizza shop buys low sells high. The market shop buys low sells high. You can switch the manger in these shops and they would be just as profitable as before. The business is essentially similar, just different names for the products.
     
    #296     Jan 10, 2015
  7. londonkid

    londonkid

    I am glad you wrote the above as it shows your ineptitude. I quote it in full to preserve it from your likely edit. Happy trolling.
     
    #297     Jan 10, 2015
  8. londonkid

    londonkid

    Haha very funny.
     
    #298     Jan 10, 2015
  9. Quote again, I have added more. What I present are the holy grail stuff. People can make money off it if they have what it takes.
     
    #299     Jan 10, 2015
  10. http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2014/07/31/1913792/most-hedge-funds-fail/
    From Financial Times addum.

    As you have them too : do you mind PM these?
     
    #300     Jan 10, 2015