Will China continue to outperform

Discussion in 'Trading' started by trading1, Mar 3, 2009.

Will HK and China outperform other markets this year

Poll closed Mar 8, 2009.
  1. Yes

    7 vote(s)
    53.8%
  2. No

    5 vote(s)
    38.5%
  3. undecided

    1 vote(s)
    7.7%
  1. The HSI is not great but despite a lot of bad news this year it seems to be doing remarkably better than elsewhere, US or Europe. Do you believe it'll correct lower?
     
  2. The HSI is actually for Hong Kong. close but not exactly the same thing.

    china does not have:

    an above market min wage,
    OSHA
    Juries
    Unions
    as wide spread of free health care like the US
    Welfare
    food stands
    unemployment insurance
    high income taxes in relation to the US
    a socialist anti business anti wealthy leader.

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    two parties that keep each other in check for waste and abuse so there is more of both in china

    not IP rights so its hard to grow in that area



    So which one do YOU think is going to outperform?

    despite the problems China is pro business and pro wealth creation something that was lost during the 1930s and really sent out of favor with the "great society" along with our empire building on a credit card that we hope we never have to pay for
     
  3. zdreg

    zdreg

  4. Unlike the Mao years, China is not isolated no more. It is tightly connected to the rest of the world.

    USA is the biggest country China ships its products to. Now with US being in a recession, consumer spending slow down, China's manufacturing is deeply affected. The raw material companies are affected because demand slows down. The booming industries are in the tourism (hotels) and local housing. Those are funded by money earned in the manufacturing businesses. Those would be slowed down too.

    Besides, I am sure many Chinese financial firms had bought the toxic CDOs from Wall Street like many other countries (even Iceland) and they had big losses as well. That's why this round of market decline is so global. No country seems to be able to stand on its own. And... the Chinese holding of US bonds... interest is crap now. Many whammies..

    This probably has delayed China's plan of selling its automobiles to the USA market (I heard that it was 2010 that they wanted to start).
     
  5. zdreg

    zdreg

    "Besides, I am sure many Chinese financial firms had bought the toxic CDOs from Wall Street like many other countries (even Iceland) and they had big losses as well."

    just hearsay about toxic paper. it sounds like american propganda we are in this together etc. etc.


    unless you believe the world is headed into the dark ages china will work its way out of america's and europe's downturn. coincidentally your remark came just as the shanghai index jumped six%