Will Bush get re-elected?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by aphexcoil, Mar 8, 2004.

  1. cdbern

    cdbern

    That depends. There are some traits inherent to women that men simply can not comprehend. These traits are found in the overwhelming majority of women. Its something we have no control over. Sorta like guys from the waist down.

    If you submitted a post saying men have strong sexual urges and I came back with "you can't speak for all men", while you never said you were speaking for ALL men, but rather making a general statement, you'd still think me nuts for arguing the point. After all, I'm not a man, you are. Additionally, you live in the world of men, men are your friends, you talk more to men than to women. Therefore you feel pretty much qualified to make that statement.

    So when I relay thoughts and feelings women in general have and what is most important to them, who are you to refute it? Unless you're a woman you have nothing.
     
    #101     Mar 10, 2004
  2. Some traits are inherent to gays too, or so they say. Others say they are learned behaviors. Science is split on the issue.

    The more we focus on the differences, the more sexism is practiced.

    Some men think with their penises, others don't. Same with women and their plumbing. You appear to be quite prone to baseless generalization if you continue to hold to your position without any statistical evidence to support it.

    It really doesn't matter to me from an equal rights perspective, or a constitutional protection argument if someone is a man or a woman. The fact that the equal rights amendment did not pass in this country due to the bias of our society at present, where in other countries those rights have been granted by governments demonstrates that gender issues are subjective and vary from society to society, culture to culture, and nation to nation.

    For every argument you can make from a "woman's" perspective, I can find a woman who makes an argument from a "woman's" perspective that completely disagrees with you when it comes to political discussions.

    Again, if you want to address bodily issues of women, even there you will find difference of opinion among women. Some women believe they have the ultimate right to choose as relates to having power over their bodies, i.e. abortion, some don't.

    To suggest that as a woman you necessarily represent the voice of other women is nonsense, and no more factual than for me to say I represent the voice of men. To say that you are more "in touch" with women, is again nonsense unless you are performing a survey that meets all the requirements of a statistically valid poll.

    You are entitled to your opinion, as a man or a woman, but your perspective as one woman is meaningless as a measure of all women, as reasoning from the specific to the general in this case would be completely fallacious.

    Personally, I find your position to be reflective of one with sexism in play to even bring up your gender in the first place.

    (Sexism defined below the term relates to the above comments}

    Main Entry: sex·ism
    Pronunciation: 'sek-"si-z&m
    Function: noun
    Etymology: 1sex + -ism (as in racism)

    2 : behavior, conditions, or attitudes that foster stereotypes of social roles based on sex








     
    #102     Mar 10, 2004
  3. cdbern

    cdbern

    Blah, blah, blah. LOL. Like I said, there are just some things men just don't understand. You're a classic.
     
    #103     Mar 10, 2004
  4. Apparently there may be things that women just don't understand if you are the representation of all women....like how to have reasonable discussions devoid of the brand of emotionalism you display.

    You are a classic practicioner of sexism, and a reason that many men have such a low opinion of the intelligence level of women.

     
    #104     Mar 10, 2004
  5. cdbern

    cdbern

    See ART, that's one of the differences between men and women, women ARE emotion. Course some men can't handle that and disregard a woman's point of view simply because of the emotion. Does that make the arguement any less valid? Talk about sexism.

    Yeah, some women aren't to bright, they put their faith and lives in the hands men. I personally have great respect for men. I've raised 3. What I have even greater respect for is a man willing to listen to a woman. Just as listening to a man makes a woman a better woman, listening to a woman makes a man a better man.

    To try and reduce the validity of anothers point of view simply because of their gender shows a lack of maturity and close mindedness. But then, I do know some men who have an over inflated opinion of themselves.
     
    #105     Mar 10, 2004
  6. Again, your comments smack of sexism.

    Women ARE emotion?

    Then men ARE reason.

    That would make you, a woman, lacking in reason.

    Is that really what you are trying to say? That because you are a woman, you are emotional and unreasonable?

    What you are saying is just pue baseless sexism, and perpetuates and aides in the advancement of stereotypes.

    It is that kind of thinking that retards the advancement of women in society.

    You continue to argue from your own personal experiences to a general conclusion, where I can easily find a woman to counter your experience with an opposite conclusion, thereby negating your argument...assuming there is some reasonable position you are taking, and not just an emotionally based argument.



     
    #106     Mar 10, 2004
  7. cdbern

    cdbern

     
    #107     Mar 10, 2004
  8. You argue like a woman scorned.

     
    #108     Mar 10, 2004
  9. So, I take it from your reply that you believe that it was somehow "unpatriotic" to disapprove of the war in Vietnam, and that John Kerry is a "traitor" because he disapproved of the war?

    Please explain.
     
    #109     Mar 10, 2004
  10. Maverick74

    Maverick74

     
    #110     Mar 10, 2004