Will Ben cut 25 or 50 bp on Halloween?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by detective, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. kashirin

    kashirin

    futures show 90% chance of 25 bp cut

    So he will definetely cut another 25 bp and probably even 50 if stocks go down another 200 points

    On October 31

    Oil will hit 100
    Gold 800
    Euro 1.5
    Dow 14500
    Inflation 1%
     
    #11     Oct 19, 2007
  2. Rates can go as low as 1% if he wants

    it was that low in 2002
     
    #12     Oct 19, 2007
  3. moo

    moo

    He will cut as much as he can get away with. 25 bps is my guess now, but 50 bps if the market tanks much more until month-end.
     
    #13     Oct 19, 2007

  4. Uhhh.... cut to 1%? That's what caused all of the problems to begin with. Rates were too low then everyone bought houses and they found out they were screwed when rates had to be raised.

    It's like delaying a car crash.
     
    #14     Oct 19, 2007
  5. I guess; Ben needs one more excuse to cut rate; the market didn't crash yet; so wall street wants a cut on Halloween; it has to crash the market to get it; and push the note/bond yield down further.
     
    #15     Oct 19, 2007
  6. mokwit

    mokwit

    The Fed is so slimy that he will probably do the opposite of what a reasonable person would conclude from remarks prior [to the cut].
     
    #16     Oct 19, 2007
  7. inflate or die. Do you get it? Julian Robertson does.
     
    #17     Oct 19, 2007
  8. 25 at minimum.
    At work on the afternoon he cut 50, I wandered into the office of an Indian co-worker of mine.
    I said, "Wow. He did 50."
    He said "Stupid thing to do."
    I was taken aback, figuring after all, that this guy was printing bucks on his longs at that hour.
    But I figured it out that night. He's more pro-Indian than pro his portfolio, and he knew that 50 was going to make it tougher to outsource to India. Rupee's up 10% on the dollar so far this year.
    So, what happens today? Paulson and the rest of the G-7 said that China needed to increase the rate of change on the remnimbi.
    What we have here, folks, is a game of chicken. The Fed will cut until the Chinese (and the Indians and all the rest) finally throw in the towel. Or vice versa.
    We're nowhere near finding out who's going to blink first.
     
    #18     Oct 19, 2007
  9. So then why did all the China stocks surge after the Fed cut rates last month?
     
    #19     Oct 20, 2007
  10. KS96

    KS96

    Please point me at where you get / how you calculate that. Thanks.
     
    #20     Oct 20, 2007