I have been looking at the debt figures in Europe and the US, the total future expenditure costs not just the public debt. So it includes pensions and nuclear power plant closure costs etc. The level of expenditure is so high that I cannot see them getting a pension on either the public or private side of the investment portfolio. The public sector pensions are so generous the state will not be able to pay. The level of private debt would also indicate some level of default that would create pension and insurance fund collapse. I was just wondering what you all thought. I have put a poll.