Wikileaks Thread

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by benwm, Dec 3, 2010.

  1. Maverick74

    Maverick74

  2. orl

    orl

    You seem to be undermining your own cause. People over the world are starting to "wake up". If this continues, it doesn't matter if Wikileaks is controlled by the CIA or aliens, for that matter. People would then just easily dismiss Wikileaks as an organization, but not as a concept. They would still retain their newly acquired critical sense and the world would still be a better place.

    On the other hand, one could argue that blaming every major world event on conspiracies, is the most dangerous conspiracy, because it reaffirms the belief that individuals are powerless.
     
    #132     Dec 13, 2010
  3. moo

    moo

    Ron Paul asks nine very good questions.

    http://fromtheold.com/news/politics/ron-paul-defends-wikileaks-house-floor-20934

    Number 1: Do the America People deserve know the truth regarding the ongoing wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen?

    Number 2: Could a larger question be how can an army private access so much secret information?

    Number 3: Why is the hostility directed at Assange, the publisher, and not at our governments failure to protect classified information?

    Number 4: Are we getting our moneys worth of the 80 Billion dollars per year spent on intelligence gathering?

    Number 5: Which has resulted in the greatest number of deaths: lying us into war or Wikileaks revelations or the release of the Pentagon Papers?

    Number 6: If Assange can be convicted of a crime for publishing information that he did not steal, what does this say about the future of the first amendment and the independence of the internet?

    Number 7: Could it be that the real reason for the near universal attacks on Wikileaks is more about secretly maintaining a seriously flawed foreign policy of empire than it is about national security?

    Number 8: Is there not a huge difference between releasing secret information to help the enemy in a time of declared war, which is treason, and the releasing of information to expose our government lies that promote secret wars, death and corruption?

    Number 9: Was it not once considered patriotic to stand up to our government when it is wrong?

    Thomas Jefferson had it right when he advised 'Let the eyes of vigilance never be closed'
     
    #133     Dec 13, 2010
  4. "FROM PRANKSTERS TO PARIAHS

    In its early stages, WikiLeaks was hardly an international sensation.

    The eclectic selection of other people's secrets that the website initially published included some of Sarah Palin's private emails and the confidential membership list of a British neo-fascist party. A year ago, the website stirred up an international furor by publishing emails exchanged among global warming experts. Conservative critics suggested that the messages showed academics tampering with scientific evidence. But investigations later found the accusations wildly overblown.

    WikiLeaks first major media breakthrough came last April. Assange journeyed to Washington, where he unveiled a 2007 combat video. Filmed from the flight deck of an American Apache helicopter in Baghdad, it showed the chopper crew repeatedly opening fire on a group of people on the ground, including some people in a van which approached and began helping the wounded.

    Two of the men killed in the incident were a Reuters photographer and his driver. WikiLeaks took the official video, which the Pentagon had tried to keep secret, and inserted it in its own presentation of the material, which it captioned "Collateral Murder." Assange introduced the material by accusing the helicopter crew of treating its work like a video game. "Their desire was simply to kill," he claimed. "Their desire was to get high scores on that video game."

    Pentagon officials shot back that WikiLeaks had taken the video out of context and some independent commentators agreed, accusing Assange and his website of distorting the evidence to make a political point.

    The contretemps put WikiLeaks and its founder on the mainstream media map."

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Speci...7.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=3&asset=&ccode=
     
    #134     Dec 13, 2010
  5. :cool:
     
    #135     Dec 13, 2010
  6. NEVER forgot....."waking up" and actually TAKING ACTION are two very different things! :eek:

    A person getting raped by a very nihilistic evil deviant will at some point in the attack "wake up" to what the reality of their situation is. The critical component is whether they fight back and TAKE ACTION regardless of the fear from their current reality.
     
    #136     Dec 13, 2010
  7. #137     Dec 13, 2010
  8. WikiLeaks cables: BP suffered blowout on Azerbaijan gas platform
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/15/wikileaks-bp-azerbaijan-gulf-spill

    ....According to another cable, in January 2009 BP thought that a "bad cement job" was to blame for the gas leak in Azerbaijan. More recently, BP's former chief executive Tony Hayward also partly blamed a "bad cement job" by contractor Halliburton for the Deepwater Horizon disaster in the Gulf of Mexico. The blowout in the Gulf led to the deaths of 11 workers and the biggest accidental offshore oil spill in history...

    ...American energy firm Chevron was in discussions with Tehran about developing an Iraq-Iran cross-border oilfield, despite US sanctions against Iran....
     
    #138     Dec 15, 2010
  9. #139     Dec 18, 2010
  10. That's treason.
     
    #140     Dec 18, 2010