Thank you for this contribution. It does make a good analogy, and you know how much I appreciate parables. Your friend may keep his reputation. Do you mind if I use this analogy to teach with? Your brother, Jesus
Thank you for pointing this out. Our Father did not lie. The means by which he would heal the world is what we are discussing. I see you enjoy quoting me. Perhaps we can form an alliance. I will teach you how to perform miracles. Then, the question will turn from "Why won't God heal amputees", to, "Why won't lkh heal amputees?". After all, I did say, and you can quote me, "The things I do, you will do also, and greater things than these". How bout it brother? Jesus
Jesus. i am ready and willing to follow you if you are god. Please come down to earth and move a mountain to prove who you are and i am all yours. If you cant move a mountian maybe you could heal an amputee in front of tv cameras. Yours truly lkh
Excellent! Was that a "yes", or a "no"? One must be decisive in these situations. I am pleased that you are eager to start with mountains because the first principle of miracles is this: There is no order of difficulty in miracles. One is not "harder" or "bigger" than another. They are all the same. All expressions of love are maximal. But before you can do anything, you must know who you are. If you think that you are God, your Creator, you can only become weaker, until you can do nothing. If you understand that you are the Son of God, anything goes. You see, "with God" all things are possible. Currently, you identify more as a son of man. I will teach you how to shift your perceptions until you know who you are, so that you can use your power. Are you still interested in learning how to heal amputees and move mountains? Your brother, Jesus
' Excellent! Was that a "yes", or a "no"? ' .... may I inquire, are you ( or another Jesus or perhaps god?) going to move a mountain for lkh or not? I would nominate Kilimanjaro if he has no objection. Or is it that he has to first re-invent himself as another brother Jesus as you suggest, then to pretend mountains can be moved?
I always could never understand why we would think that if in this amazing existance there is/are a higher power/s that we could be so selfish as to assume that all that exists was created solely for us.
Proof #45 - Consider Noah's Ark There are so many absurdities in the story of Noah's ark. The fact that such an absurd story is in the Bible is enough to prove that the Bible is the mythological work of primitive men rather than the product of an all-knowing being. And once we've proven that the Bible is mythological, we know that Jesus is imaginary, prayer is imaginary, Genesis and Revelation are imaginary, and, thus, God is imaginary. But there is one absurdity in the story of Noah's Ark that deserves special recognition, because it proves that God, in addition to being imaginary, is insane. That special absurdity is this: God senselessly murdered millions of humans and billions of animals in the flood How do we know it was senseless? Because in Christian mythology, "God" is supposed to be "all-knowing." If God were to exist, God would know what was coming when he created Adam and Eve. Therefore, God knew he would be murdering millions of people. Why didn't God simply speed up Jesus' arrival to avoid the atrocity that is the flood? Or why didn't God program Adam and Eve when he created them to completely circumvent the need for such a horrendous atrocity? The idea that Christians would accept a mass-murdering lunatic as their object of worship shows just how deep religious delusion runs. By (supposedly) murdering nearly every human on the planet, this imaginary God is far more heinous than Hitler. No "loving" and "perfect" being can also be a mass-murderer bent of global genocide. Yet Christians willfully worship him. There is no better indicator that religion is delusion and that God is imaginary. And Noah's flood is not the only place where God displays these ridiculous tendencies to mindlessly slaughter. Here are several other examples. In the book of Exodus chapter 12 verse 28, God writes about one of his early massacres: So the people of Israel did just as the LORD had commanded through Moses and Aaron. And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died. Here the death of the children is directly at the hand of God. In Isaiah chapter 13, God paints this word picture: Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. What a lovely image. In Jeremiah chapter 49, verse 20, God paints a similar picture: Therefore hear the plan which the LORD has made against Edom and the purposes which he has formed against the inhabitants of Teman: Even the little ones of the flock shall be dragged away; surely their fold shall be appalled at their fate. At the sound of their fall the earth shall tremble; the sound of their cry shall be heard at the Red Sea. In Hosea chapter 13, God paints a similar picture: Samaria shall bear her guilt, because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the sword, their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open. In Numbers chapter 31, God paints a similar picture: Moses said to them, "Have you let all the women live? Behold, these caused the people of Israel, by the counsel of Balaam, to act treacherously against the LORD in the matter of Pe'or, and so the plague came among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him. But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. Here Moses, acting as an agent of God, specifies that thousands of male babies and children be killed, as well as thousands of women. The Bible states in verse 35 that the captured women numbered "thirty-two thousand persons in all, women who had not known man by lying with him." This was not a small attack. Tens of thousands men, women and children were massacred. In Deuteronomy Chapter 3 we find this: Next we turned and went up along the road toward Bashan, and Og king of Bashan with his whole army marched out to meet us in battle at Edrei. The LORD said to me, "Do not be afraid of him, for I have handed him over to you with his whole army and his land. Do to him what you did to Sihon king of the Amorites, who reigned in Heshbon." So the LORD our God also gave into our hands Og king of Bashan and all his army. We struck them down, leaving no survivors. At that time we took all his cities. There was not one of the sixty cities that we did not take from themâthe whole region of Argob, Og's kingdom in Bashan. All these cities were fortified with high walls and with gates and bars, and there were also a great many unwalled villages. We completely destroyed them, as we had done with Sihon king of Heshbon, destroying every cityâmen, women and children. But all the livestock and the plunder from their cities we carried off for ourselves. They massacred all the men, women and children in 60 cities at God's request. Even in the "New Testament" we find the same sort of thing. In the book of Matthew, chapter 2, mixed into the Christmas story, the Bible describes an amazing massacre of thousands of babies: And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh. And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way. And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him. When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt: And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son. Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men. Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not. Think about the thousands of families who were affected by this massacre. The Bible describes their suffering: they wept and could not be comforted. Of course they could not be comforted. If you are a parent, you know exactly how distraught you would feel if an agent of the government came to your door one morning and slaughtered your children. Why would God do this? Because God is imaginary, all of these stories are myths, and the people who believe and revel in these myths are... what? "Insane" is one word that comes to mind. Why would any normal, intelligent, ethical human being "worship" such a heinous, demented and despicable "god" as this? Insanity in the form of deep, deep delusion is the only possible explanation. It is impossible for a "perfect" and "loving" being to also be heinous, demented and despicable. This impossibility tells us that God is imaginary.
Proof #46 - Ponder Pascal's Wager You will frequently hear believers make the following rationalization: Suppose you are right. Suppose there is no God. Then when I die as a believer, I have lost nothing. I just die, as a man that devoted his life to love and morals. But if you, as a non-believer, are wrong and I am right, you have to spend an eternity in hell. See, I have nothing to lose, but you have everything to lose. This argument is best known as Pascal's Wager. The problem with this line of reasoning is that there are thousands of gods that humans have imagined. A person who believes in Allah can make this statement, and so can a person who believes in God, and so can a person who believes in Vishnu. This multitude of fictional beings shows the silliness of the argument. There is no way to know which god to choose, because there is no evidence whatsoever indicating that any of them exist. The fact is that religion is delusion. All human gods are imaginary. By believing in an imaginary god, a believer has not "lost nothing." Believers commit themselves to a lifetime of delusion, instead of commiting their lives to reality. Non-believers, in contrast, live moral and loving lives without having to resort to delusion. Non-believers are normal human beings who embrace reality rather than delusion. As a result, they live much healthier lives. The fact that there are so many gods proves that all of these gods are imaginary. If there actually were an all-knowing, all-powerful, all-loving "god" in any form, he would be obvious to everyone and we would all align on him. His existence would be undeniable and impossible to hide.