When I ocassionally read your posts, I realize how disingenuous you are. Researching this post I now see you seem to be taking these questions from Muslim websites. Which semms to explain why you seem to have no regard for the proper context or acknowledging the fact the other side has as good or better arguments countering the implicit claims you are making. I see this problem over and over again on the muslm cirtique cites. The scholarship is weak. To respond to this question I can quickly tell you that many sat Jesus's last words were a reference to Psalm 22 which begings with the words. My God My God why has thou forsaken me.
stu, the clear minded adult ...so very grown up as to play parrot. Extremely funny... stu, the clear minded adult demonstrates his "reasoning process" below: <img src=http://w3.ouhsc.edu/phar5442/Images/Images%20Mental%20Health/Tantrum.gif>
Wrong about the muslim sites. Islam is just as much imaginary as christianity. I am accomplishing my goal if you are at least reading the material. That means there is hope even for you. Eventually you will have questions and a questioning mind is the enemy of faith. Its not a bad thing. Its liberating to be a freethinker.
If you are truly applying a questioning mind, then you must know that you have to question the very foundations of your intellect, senses, and reasoning ability. Unless you think that your intellect, senses, and reason are infinite and infallible (which would give you a god complex), you would have to reach the conclusion that human intellect, senses, and reason are severely limited...therefore could never be sufficient to have full faith in them to reveal the truth. I have seen such people who truly did the work of deeply questioning their senses, intellect, and reasoning process...generally they are institutionalized or they walk like a corkscrew. Assuming you are not walking like a corkscrew or in an institution, I must assume that you have taken on faith that your intellect, senses, and reasoning ability are not actually deceiving you and preventing you from the real truth of life. So you practice faith in the intellect, senses, and human reason. I have no problem with your religion, your choice. Others make other choices. So, since you faithfully practice your own religion, why the need to try and make other religions wrong? Could it be that in fact you do have some deep doubt in your own "god" of intellect, senses, and reasoning ability that needs to be confirmed by attack of others and their respective belief systems?
How would you reach that conclusion without using your intellect, senses, and reason ? ..so why the need for you to use your our intellect, senses, and reason to try and make another's argument against religion wrong?
How would you reach that conclusion without using your intellect, senses, and reason ? Faith. ..so why the need for you to use your our intellect, senses, and reason to try and make another's argument against religion wrong? I am not engaging in making their arguments wrong. I am just questioning the tools they use in fashioning their arguments. I have said this so many times stu, I have no problem with your religion, be happy with it. However, I don't see contentment from the ET atheists who have a need to attack the belief systems of others, when in fact they are using their own belief system to do so, I see a continual need to attack the theists and I don't know why that is.
you see attack, others see lively discussion on the why and wherefore, that's all. Anything institutionalized is not private personal faith and is up to query and criticism. Religion is therefore justifiably open to query and condemnation where appropriate.
Not my faith, no it doesn't. You can't speak to my faith, now can you? Since you don't really know what it is. You can only speak to your own faith....which you have in spades. I am happy that you have a faith that works for you, tell me why you are not happy that others have faith that works for them? Why the need to attack others and their faith?
You consider calling others "childish" lively? Okay, so shall we get really lively and just go for full on name calling and skip all the boring civility?