Why won't gay people accept democracy ?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by oktiri, Nov 14, 2008.

  1. Arnie

    Arnie

    You should try "Rodeo Sex"

    Here's how you do it:

    Shes on all fours, you mount from behind (doggy style)

    Plant it REAL deep, then start carressing her breasts and say:

    "Gee, your tits aren't as firm as your sisters"

    Try to hang on for 8 seconds. :D
     
    #201     Nov 19, 2008
  2. Just a simple majority, or the kind of majority it takes to pass a federal constitutional amendment?

     
    #202     Nov 19, 2008
  3. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
     
    #203     Nov 19, 2008
  4. I think the only imperative in making these super majority "amendments" has been to circumvent activist jurists.

    I would guess a strong argument can be made that an amendment is unconstitutional if the amendment violates the underlying theme, spirit or tenants of the original document. Unlike abortion which I can at least see the constitutional argument-there's little in SSM advocacy that strikes me as constitutionally compelling.

    It's ironic because I've seen you tear apart various libertarian arguments as chaotic- certainly many are- but I look upon the SSM argument as silly as me petitioning that if a baby can suckle it's mom at the mall I should have equal right to suck my gf's tits in public. Legal lunacy.
     
    #204     Nov 19, 2008
  5. Oh, please suckle your girlfriends breasts in public, it would be good for a laugh...

     
    #205     Nov 19, 2008
  6. When we're left with no choice. Yes.
    Arizona, Florida, Arkansas and California ALL passed diverse Gay marriage/ adoption restrictive ballot measures, and yet some judge in Connecticut "allowed" gay marriages to proceed. it's obvious in this case that a few judges are well ahead of the American people and Both ex-presidential candidates...on the matter.
    A constitutional amendment isn't the best way to go, but if we have no choice...then I'm all for it.
     
    #206     Nov 19, 2008
  7. old people sucking on each other makes me ill

    Hardpore cornography :eek:
     
    #207     Nov 19, 2008
  8. Yannis

    Yannis

    In the case of abortion, I can see the victim clearly: the baby is dead. But how can the state regulate what consenting adults do behind closed doors? I'd say, don't even try, save your bullets until someone complains of something wrong done to them.

    Along these lines, the "gay marriage" problem we have in some states like California today is not of substance, imo, since these same states allow civil unions, some better than others. It's one of nomenclature, a dispute over the word "marriage." So, why don't the courts adopt a similar word like "mariage" for gay couples and get it over with? But, when people say that, it immediately turns into one of those "separate but equal" endless quarrels.

    The real issue here, imo again, is that after successfully fighting discrimination on all fronts, the gay community is now escalating the struggle in an attempt to make homosexual relationships totally accepted and normal in society. Perhaps even taught in school one day as a perfectly good alternative sexual relationship option. In that respect, they behave in a militant way to change the established cultural morms prematurely and by force - hence the violent demonstrations we've been witnessing on TV. That's a long road to hoe and Americans are not ready to get there yet, let alone get pushed into it.
     
    #208     Nov 19, 2008
  9. the real question IS why democracy won't accept gay peeps??

    sharkysmachine :cool:
     
    #209     Nov 19, 2008
  10. I doubt that when Gay marriage was temporarily legalized, that the gays thought seriously that the homophobia in California would suddenly vanish just because it was legal for gays to marry.

    What they thought, was that in the eyes of the law, that they were normal. The scales of justice are blind for a reason, they are supposed to be free of the prejudice that comes only from judgment with reason and fact as the determinate factor.

    That is what the gays want, and they know, just like blacks know, racism is not going away in a generation or two, and neither is homophobia. It takes a long time, but acknowledgement that prohibition of gay marriage fundamentally goes against the spirit of equal opportunity under the law puts them on an equal status under the law, and under their church of choice that supports gay marriage.

    Gays want to be married and have the same rights as heteros.

    What is so hard to understand about that?

    They know that most people are not suddenly going to turn gay.

    It really comes down to human rights, the basic right of a government not to allow religious bias of the majority religion usurp the principle that human rights are given by God, not by any particular religion or church, and marriage of a partner is a fundamental choice within that freedom, gay or straight.

    If God chooses to send them to hell, that is God's job, not the public who sit in judgment that gays are going to hell and are going to pass laws to keep them from going to hell.

    Let them marry and have or not have children.

    We have so many problems that are so much more important to solve than who married whom...

     
    #210     Nov 19, 2008