Why wait for a pullback?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Blitzjoker, Feb 5, 2023.

  1. It depends on how we’re looking at a pullback. For instance, if I’m getting on board with a trend from the daily TF, my idea of a pullback may be a small countermove on the 1H chart. I’ve found that if I wait for a pullback on the higher TF, then I’m essentially waiting for something that’s probably not going to happen. Or, if it did happen, the market is now in reversal mode.
     
    #11     Feb 5, 2023
  2. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    5 year back test is largely meaningless, that sample is too small for the strategy you outlined.
     
    #12     Feb 5, 2023
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  3. According to the Dow theory (which you can observe in every financial instrument), markets move almost NEVER in one straight line up or down, instead every time in a trend-move followed by a (weaker) counter-move.

    When you're entering the market is up to you, but as I'm using leveraged positions, I've got to place a very tight SL. Entering on the primary move would kick my position out as soon as the pullback sets in.
     
    #13     Feb 5, 2023
  4. Yes.
    Right now it's technically possible/reasonable that a bear market rally has been completed at the "50% retracement level". If that turns out to be the case, chasing now or even "buying the dip" will lead to losses. If the 50% level breaks and tests the 62% retracement, same possible scenario. If the 62% level clears and holds, most likely ATH will be tested.

    Proper way to play the market now is to play the 50% and 62% levels as "pivots".... long above, short below. And if ATH is tested, play that as a pivot also.... it would be (at least temporarily) a large "double top". That's Price TA.

    KISS, baby. :)

    SPX Fib.PNG
     
    #14     Feb 5, 2023
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  5. MarkBrown

    MarkBrown

    insecurity?
     
    #15     Feb 5, 2023
  6. DTB2

    DTB2

    50MA/Daily. Price above-look for long opportunity and vice versa. /ES

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    #16     Feb 5, 2023
  7. Blitzjoker

    Blitzjoker

    You said "You really need to know the market you're trading - where it's at and where it's going". That would be ideal wouldn't it?
     
    #17     Feb 5, 2023
  8. deaddog

    deaddog

    Just anecdotal evidence but I find that my best performers rarely pull back from my entry. If I wait for a pullback I wouldn't get in the trade.
     
    #18     Feb 5, 2023
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  9. Blitzjoker

    Blitzjoker

    Yes I agree with you. The data seems to support that, but maybe others have found otherwise?
     
    #19     Feb 5, 2023
  10. Blitzjoker

    Blitzjoker

    Doesn't that just show that a mean reversion strategy works when the market reverts to the mean? What if the trend continues?
     
    #20     Feb 5, 2023