Why this market sucks

Discussion in 'Trading' started by stock777, Apr 18, 2011.

  1. Its populated by geeks that grok this, from zh

    Two interesting charts indicate that following the earlier S&P announcement, which for the first time saw a risk aversion reaction that saw both a selloff in equities and bonds, the 10 Year is surprisingly rich to the ES. In fact, a quick look at the chart below shows that while most asset pair (FX, Crude, ES) continue to correlate tightly following the downgrade, the 10 Year point is a major outlier. What is even more curious is that while the 10 Year may be outlying notably, the actual curve itself, as depicted by the 2s10s30s continues to correlate perfectly with ES despite some earlier choppiness. For those so inclined, an appropriate convergence trade would be a 2s10s30s neutral: essentially locking out for parallel curve shifts to moves in the ES, while trading the 10 Year spot for a compression trade with the ES, but keeping the wings of the butterfly constant as both the ES and the 10 Year is bought. This trade makes even more sense if the Fed proceeds with one of its late MOVE dumps, whereby it sells vol via off-balance sheet SPVs.
  2. Some of those geeks might also know the difference between 'grok' and 'grep' :confused:
  3. You been smoking that cheap weed again?
  4. I had thought it was "grape" or "grope". :(
  5. Some big player has made the mistake to announce a large short position in US bonds ahead of the S&P announcement but the strong hand, the US Treasury, will be happy to squeeze him to teach him a lesson about who controls the debt markets. It will be a 50 billion quick profit for the Treasury. Watch for bond prices rising in the weeks to follow.
  6. No, but I see you've been editing your post :D
  7. don't you know, its an old et tradition, ask forexforex
  8. Isn't that 'fraud', 777?


  9. pretty good volume today, well compared to last 2 weeks of BS
  10. if you cant beat em join em, sort of like hft.

    I am among fools and knaves. Pick one or both
    #10     Apr 18, 2011