Why the selling?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Tarzan, Sep 28, 2021.

  1. Snuskpelle

    Snuskpelle

    Let's see, it would be stupid of me to point to a particular reason, but:
    • Hawkish Fed (rates complex first to sniff this out)
    • Incoming data not so hot in all aspects
    • Evergrande et al
    • Edit: And oh course the periodic debt ceiling debacle that US politicians insist on having
    ...and this in a setup that on quite a few measures exceed 2000 mania.

    Anyone who's been in this long enough knows that's not enough to make top calls though.
     
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    #11     Sep 28, 2021
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  2. Handle123

    Handle123

    I found a good enough reason to sell certain new contract highs or buy new contract lows back in the 1990's, and it became quickly better when I learned to hedge. Set one target based on margin to liquidate a percentage and rest have a breakeven stops.

    Markets go up and down seldom no particular reason at extremes, at some point when "Joe Average" is getting hurt in their retirement accounts, market has already plunged a good amount and then there is so called reasons. Some might say hourly wages at fast food places are paying $15 and still can't young people to get a job. I love it.

    Markets are like potholes, some deeper than others, get fixed for awhile and then freeze, before you know it a deep pothole.

    Always found it funny no one is screaming when markets going up too fast.

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    #12     Sep 28, 2021
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  3. Overnight

    Overnight

    There is a delicate irony about that. Our favorite no-hold-barred bull Rickshaw Man was screaming that it was too vertical not long ago. I guess right before Labor Day. But he went long anyway. So did I. Alas.
     
    #13     Sep 28, 2021
  4. Imagine if you bought and sold at the ideal moments on the S&P chart, you would be a millionaire in a day. If you bought enough put options.
    I could tell you why the market went down.
     
    #14     Sep 28, 2021
  5. tomorton

    tomorton

    The selling is so that I can get long again asap.
     
    #15     Sep 29, 2021
  6. virtusa

    virtusa

    For each contract there is a buyer and a seller.
    So if there is a massive sell, there has to be a massive buy too. If not there wouldn't be a transaction.
     
    #16     Sep 29, 2021
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  7. Snuskpelle

    Snuskpelle

    More accurately perhaps is that the sellers had a higher sense of urgency in that they were willing to accept lower prices.

    Nonetheless, calling down days "selling" is commonly accepted parlance even if it strictly speaking is incorrect.
     
    #17     Sep 29, 2021
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  8. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Range bound consolidation after a nice run up subject to some pressure from Evergrande. Likely renewed buying roughly November-January. Unclear what will occur in the immediate but a sector based approach eliminates most downside risk.
     
    #18     Sep 29, 2021
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  9. %%
    OLD ag pattern;
    people are used to selling red apples \SEPT. Dump a lot of anything in SEPT \market price comes down. Bonds are correlated to itself.
    Some elite asked a profitable Dow daytrader ''dont you ever look @ price of oil??'' The profitable Dow daytrader said ''NO, Dow is correlated to itself'' :D:D:D:D:D:D,:caution::caution::caution::caution:
     
    #19     Sep 29, 2021
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  10. %%
    TRUE;
    but we commonly call a down day[ @ close], down, down volume, sell volume.Or put another way more sellers wanted out @ any price, so price closed down.
    Default doesnt have to be bearish, market uptrended good during Trump gov shutdown.

    SEPT stock sells/ETF sells are common pattern in SEPT stocks\ regardless of bond downtrends, mr Tarzan....................................................... NOT a prediction , not bank insured, not a bond buyer today.
     
    #20     Sep 29, 2021