Why the Democratic Party Cannot Survive

Discussion in 'Politics' started by bugscoe, Nov 17, 2010.

  1. Considering around 80 % of Obamas polices are Bush and Romney polices are Republicans socialists as well ?
     
    #11     Nov 17, 2010
  2. Yes indeed Tim Wise and marxist ludites like omega get excited at the thought of White genocide. They hate white people passionately and gleefuly celebrate declines in white population. But of course, this genocidal sentiment isn't "racist". Of course you could imagine what they would say if a republican was sitting around talking about how they were happy about lower numbers of blacks and latinos... They'd have a lynch mob with torches in the street with CNN championing them...

    Also don't forge that Tim Wise is Jewish, one of those people you love so dearly Omega... You know, the ones you have genocidal tendencies toward in Israel??

     
    #12     Nov 17, 2010
  3. Establishment repubs more or less are, yes...

     
    #13     Nov 17, 2010
  4. jem

    jem

    correct, Obama lacked the balls and the will to make a real health care reform. Obama and Bush and the congress have been deploying the worst forms of socialism. Pork spending and health care policies designed by drug and health care policies.

    Now, I guess you are starting to see the point of the tea party.
     
    #14     Nov 18, 2010
  5. jem

    jem

    I do not get it.
    do you think the govt makes jobs.
    Who will the govt tax if they keep putting people out of business.
    Who will work if taxes keep going up.
    We can't afford bloated govt give aways anymore.

    If there were no income taxes only tariffs I guarantee there would be plenty of ice cream and plenty of people who could pay for it.
     
    #15     Nov 18, 2010
  6. jem

    jem

    "policies" should have been companies
     
    #16     Nov 18, 2010
  7. The Democrat Party has the backing of the

    media,
    unions,
    seniors,
    blacks,
    celebrities,
    leftists pretending to be moderates like Free Thinker and KINGOFSHORTS,
    latinos,
    lawyers,
    university professors who never ran a business,
    etc.

    The Republican Party is further being assaulted by Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Larry Kudlow, and other very critical Republicans. There's heavy Republican in-fighting.
    Any Sarah Palin basher is a liberal or liberal in disguise! [​IMG]
     
    #17     Nov 18, 2010
  8. Ricter

    Ricter

    I owe you an answer here, but have been extra busy.

    I believe gov't can not only create jobs, it can create entire industries. Sometimes private capital is reluctant and unorganized. Large scale R&D come to mind, particularly that stemming from military pursuits.

    Of course, you're right, the gov't can tax people right out of business, but so can private capital (we don't call it a "tax", though. Accumulation, flight, union busting, etc.) Both entities use force to accomplish their ends, if they don't already have our agreement. At any rate, these days, thanks to the revolving door, I'm not drawing so bright a line between those two entities.

    Taxes are essentially a function of sales. No sales, no taxes, except for certain quantized elements. At this time, in this place, business taxes are a non-issue.

    I'm all for eliminating free-riders, I refer to your "bloated gov't give aways", but I want them eliminated at both ends of the economic spectrum. I suspect you do, too.
     
    #18     Nov 19, 2010
  9. Sure, it's easy to say our team vs. their team - what about How will America Survive? A lot better chance if we actually stop all the childish, playground battles. Politicians are a necessary evil I guess, but neither party is likely to be nominated for sainthood.




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    #19     Nov 19, 2010
  10. Yannis

    Yannis

    DEMOCRATS ARE LOSING WOMEN!
    By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN


    "Ever since the abortion debate burst on the American political scene in the wake of the Roe v Wade decision by the U.S. Supreme Court, women have voted more Democratic than men. Particularly unmarried women have since typically backed Democratic candidates - attracted by their pro-choice positions - by between ten and twenty points in each election.

    But now the trend has stopped! In one of the most important findings in the post-election polls, the McLaughlin and Associates polling firm has found that men and women both voted for Republican candidates in the 2010 midterm elections! Pollster John McLaughlin - one of the best - noted that "The Republican candidates for Congress had a 12-point advantage among men (53-41) and a 7-point advantage among women (50-43)." This finding is historic.

    The Republicans won married women by 57-38, suburban women by 55-38, and Independent women by 51-40. Democrats maintained reduced margins among single women, poor women, and minority group women.

    While national surveys have indicated a ten point shift to pro-life as opposed to pro-choice positions over the past twenty years, so dramatic a reversal from 2008 (when Obama carried women by huge margins) cannot be attributed to an attitudinal change on the abortion issue. Rather, it indicates that the issue has diminished in saliency, particularly as economic conditions have worsened and concerns about the impact of Obama's legislation on health care quality have grown.

    In an earlier column, we indicated that the ascendancy of the Tea Party movement, with its focus on economic, fiscal, tax and health policy issues, has increasingly eclipsed the Christian right as the biggest grass roots organization on the right. As the Republican Party becomes more secular, apparently women are feeling freer to vote for it.

    Of lesser note, but still interesting, are the Republican gains among both African-Americans and Latinos.

    For decades - ever since 1964 when things turned - Republican candidates have counted themselves fortunate if they scored in double digits among black voters. But, in the 2010 election, polling by the Zogby organization found Republicans winning more than 20% of the black vote, holding Democrats to a mere 3:1 win as opposed to the more usual 8:1 or 9:1 victories of recent years.

    Among Latinos, Republicans also made some gains. After losing Hispanics by only 10 points in the 2004 contest of Bush vs. Kerry, and suffering a 45 point loss in 2008, the Republican candidates for Congress in 2010 lost the Latino vote by 20 points.

    The better GOP showing, of course, has a lot to do with the composition of the black and Hispanic vote. In an off-year election, the better educated and higher income members of both voter blocks are more inclined to participate and down-scale voters are more likely to stay home.

    But the reversal among both groups may reflect the increasing frustration of both groups with Obama's failure to deliver on his economic promises. That blacks voted more Republican in 2010 with an African-American in office than they did in 2006 is remarkable.

    Among Latinos, the Zogby findings validate the results of a Pew Research survey conducted in October, 2010 that found that Latinos were more concerned about jobs, education, and health care than about immigration. Asked to rate the importance of each issue, 58% of Hispanic voters said education very important and 57% felt that way about jobs and the economy. 51% gave that rating to health care, but only 31% said immigration was "very important." 29% said the environment was.

    The only issue blocking Latinos from embracing the Republican Party is its anti-immigration position and the lingering doubts it engenders about the Party's attitude toward Hispanics in general. But the election of Republican Cuban-American Marco Rubio as Senator from Florida may assuage these doubts. In any case, on the issues that matter most to Latinos - education, jobs and health care, many apparently felt strongly enough to switch to the GOP."
     
    #20     Nov 19, 2010