i sell cars @ a honda dealership and things aren't that bad. we have slowed down some but it's mostly the time of the year. Honda and toyota will continue to grow and gm and f will continue to lose market share. our dealership had it's best year in 08.
Why would someone buy a nice car and not drive it in the city? Cars are for driving, not for staring at in the garage. surf
Many of us believe they should let the Detroit 3 go by the wayside and allow Toyota, Honda, Nissan, VW to pick up the demand.
yep i agree. I drive a 68 camaro and im a fan of gm's older products (pre 72) but you can't justify trying to save a company just because it's a big part of americana. Toyota and honda just make a better product.
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ill be the first to admit gm makes the best sportscars for the money. cts-v and zr-1's are unbelievable for the money. but comparing the average man's civic to a cobalt is a joke. p.s congrats you picked an exceptional vehicle!!!
"Toyota and honda just make a better product" They do but the biggest problem I have with American cars is having to deal with the shitty dealerships with service and warranty issues. If I have a problem with my Lexus ( which is rare) the dealership is ON it and they fix it and act like they give a shit. Go to some GM dealer and try to get something done. They are thieves.
I have a garage kept, never off road, 9 year old 4-runner with 61k miles and never a repair and original battery. Guess what, a neighbor tried to by it from me about a month ago.
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i'd replace the battery asap. you're living on borrowed time. there's little difference between a lead acid battery in a toyota and in any other car. don't think that yours is higher quality because it's in a toyota.