Killing civilians during war goes all the way back to the 1700s...actually much further back. Typically, it's a way to break the back of your enemy by killing their civilians (especially women and children). Yet, rape and pillaging usually follow as wartime sexual violence especially if the WAR involves ethnic conflict. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wartime_sexual_violence The above is a huge problem especially when there's some sort'uv a draft or mandatory registration for the military because they typically don't look into the mental stability of the soldier nor look into any recent criminal offenses. wrbtrader
The problem is the unintended consequences of sending the Ukraine military Tow missiles to destroy tanks and Stinger missiles to shoot down helicopters and jet fighters at low altitudes. So, the Russians are left with firing howitzers, rockets from afar, bombing at high altitudes which is highly inaccurate and firing cruise missiles. All very deadly, just the same. Ukraine should have evacuated its non-combatant citizens, women and children a long time ago. Instead, Zelensky urged all Ukrainians to fight to the death? He has the power to end this war. Surrender and give the Russians Crimea (they already built bases for the Russian navy), they are not giving it back. Same with Donetsk and Luhansk which has a lot of ethnic Russians. They do not want to be under Ukraine. Give them their independence. Lastly, declare neutrality and shelf Ukraine's ambition to be a NATO member. That is Putin's demands. Give it to him. Otherwise, Putin will grind Ukraine and pulverize it until they surrender. How much is a Ukrainian life worth? Continuing to fight and die, does not make sense at all. There is a time when you have to accept the inevitable, which is defeat. Accept it and rebuild Ukraine, for those still alive. Cooler heads need to prevail. NATO ratcheting up sanctions will not work. Putin probably, has thousands of cruise missiles to fire at Ukraine. Over 700 cruise missiles has been fired at Ukraine so far. He knows if he pulverizes Ukraine he will win, be it in 2 weeks, 2 months or even 1 year. NATO is just getting Ukrainians killed because they want to humiliate Putin. Go to the negotiating table. That is what is going to stop this senseless war.
We didn't "deliberately" target civilians when Nixon decided to carpet bomb North Vietnam and extend the war into Laos, and then lie about it. Nixon dropped more ordinance on Indochina than the U.S. dropped on Germany in all of WWII. The civilians killed were "collateral" damage. Fortunately the North Vietnamese went underground and many survived. It is unclear what lessons have been learned from the war crimes our forces committed in Vietnam.
Got a link? Are the civilians armed by President Comedian Zelinko? https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/war-is-a-racket.72875/#post-5561487
Small, I agree. I wrote the quote below two weeks ago. And @UsualName, before you jump in here with the Ukrainians are winning, that may be the case for now, but their country is being turned into a parking lot and thousands upon thousands of innocent's are dying. They should have negotiated with Putin, they can't win. What good is freedom if there's no country left? Sure Ukraine can turn this into a war of occupation and drag it on for years. What good does that do? More loss of life, millions and millions of people flooding Europe with no money, no jobs and no housing? For what? To prove a point? As much as the world now respects and admires Zelenski for his bravery, he needs to hand Putin the win, which is what he should have done two weeks ago. I said it before and I'll say it again... Putin is done with his territorial ambitions. And NATO can make that crystal clear. It's easy for Americans to wear Ukrainian colors, come up with stupid smiling dances on Tik-Tok, and cheer for the underdog from bleachers set 2500 miles away all warm and cozy... but critical thought has been replaced by social media and a few select power-houses that can manipulate public opinion now like no other time in the history of mankind. I don't want WW3, and as I said, sometimes you have no other choice but to sacrifice the bishop to save the queen. Ukraine's the bishop; the rest of the free world is the queen. Give Putin the win and he'll be done. There's zero doubt in my mind. He knows he can't win against NATO. If he didn't know it before, he sure as hell knows it now.
All we want is a link tree. Definition of rumor ; 1 ยท talk or opinion widely disseminated with no discernible source Tree - sorry to see you go. That's too bad. Get over it. The bottom line: you provid no conclusive evidence. It is just your opinion so far. It is hearsay, rumors, gossip? How are we to know? A little birdie told me? Cope as you will but there's enough unsubstantiated text flying around to get people killed by some keyboard jocky with a warmonger attitude. You all fired Up? Here's your rifle. Heres your parachute. Here's your dayglo orange jumpsuit. Watch your head on the way out of the plane. Go Get Em Tiger! Dippin into the namecalling too. You funny tree. Come back when you calm down.
This ol dude has some ideas that bear consideration: This is cued but the complete vid is worth it... try 2x playback speed if you're tight for time...