oh, you talking to me? A self-proclaimed community of evangelical christian bloggers adulterating scientists' quotes to fit their own agenda, is not giving any true "message of the science". That's evidence of dishonesty. It is what's expected though.
Only in your mind are there sides. A search for the truth only has one side until an absolute answer is proven. Until absolute proof is proffered, all 'sides,' as you put it, or opinions are equal.
again stu trolls his ass off instead of looking up a quote from one of the scientists being quoted. did freeman dyson make the quoted statement or not and what did it mean... would be a non troll discussion or response. commenting on the blogger without commenting on the quality of the information is what a troll would do. shooting the messenger is a logical fallacy and something right out of the troll playbook.
another logic crater from the left. There is evidence the tuner tuned this universe. so yes you could argue therefore the Tuner created everything in the universe. (in a way) However, scientifically speaking no one says the Tuner has to create everything the ricter minds dreams up. So you were either torturing the words "create everything" or torturing logic itself when you made the statement below. Cause no one but you is saying science has observed tuners create everything.
You ask that is if jem is privy to knowledge beyond this universe. You are just such a moron, Rectum. Instead of all your really stupid nonsense how about giving us the Ricter Riddle for the day, riddler?
It's because you are unable to rationally discuss any of this you still come up with the same version of wrong after dozens of threads. Evangelical christians are often found to be fundamentally dishonest. Using anything from them as information is almost guaranteed to be misleading. Commenting on the blogger in this case is valid and frankly the messenger deserves to be shot when they themselves, change the message. What does Freeman Dyson's comment mean? I'd suggest it means anything you want it to because no matter what is said about it, irrespectively you'll repeat the same again and again in your usual version of wrong. However, no comment has ever been forwarded or supported scientifically. Did Stephen Hawking make the statement they quoted? The answer is no. Of course adding in some extra wording to push the quote further out of context than clipping it has already done, the evangelical christians complete their deception. Inserting "..a mighty speculative notion to the generation of many different Universes.." into Stephen Hawking's quote when he says no such thing, is no doubt their attempt at trying to match the inclusion of the word Christ where it wasn't originally written into certain ancient documents by others of their ilk. Dishonesty very often comes as second nature to evangelical christians. Here's a quote from a scientist. How come you don't repeat post this one in the same way... "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist. It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going."
It shouldn't be surprising that the so-called Einstein quote written by jem is fake. Ironically the quote comes from a book called The Problem of Religion There are so many quotes falsely attributed to Einstein that if he really said all of them, he wouldn't have had time to develop the theories of relativity. It's just amazing how utter bullshit takes on a life of its own.
No kidding. But considering that their whole shtick is pimping fairy tales that were pulled out of Bronze Age arses, this is not surprising.