Both RIMM and AAPL are long term shorts. Starting with a small short position at these prices and scaling in will make you money in the long run. I'm talking 1-3 years. Not holding for a week or 2. I'm talking long term short positions, not daytrading or swingtrading short these members of the Four Horsemen. RIMM's market cap is over 60 Billion, AAPL's market cap is over 140 Billion, do people really except these companies to continue their earnings growth rates? It was like CSCO in 2000 when its market cap went past MSFT's, really, was the router market ever bigger and more profitable than the market for computer O/S and software? Maybe the router market had a higher growth rate then but the overall market size was and is much smaller than the computer O/S and software market. Look at the big picture people. RIMM sells that Blackberry gadget which is easily substitutable with any decent cell phone. And AAPL with its ipod, iphone, iXXXX, they are all fads and gadgets that are commodity products. The ipod is an mp3 player. The iphone is a cellphone. No one uses overpriced Macs. What makes it so special??? Might as well buy DELL instead at a much cheaper valuation if you want to purchase a company that sells commodity products.