Macattack would strongly disagree along with a dozen or so journals in the journal section by traders complaining about problematic trading in the chop that they only see in hindsight instead of seeing it when they want to see it...as in in real-time while trading. Just the same, there are lots of journals in the past few years by traders that complain about missing the big moves or wishing they had the guts to trade them big moves and bitching about today's problematic market conditions. Therefore, it would seem you see ET via only what you want to see. That's ok but don't assume others see what you see as I noted about macattack and so many other traders. Most here have trading problems and openly discusses such. Therefore, please take a walk around the block a few more times to get a clearer vision of the reality. Simply, don't let your personal bias against a few that say they're profitable cloud your vision of what most ETers are saying about their trading when those few show up to try to help the masses. Lastly, since you don't believe profitable trading is possible, I highly recommend you stop trading and go find another hobby or career instead of wasting your valuable time at a forum full of traders asking for help with their trading...seriously...don't you think its time for you to minimize your losses and move on to something more fruitful. Life is too short for that type of online persona you have.