Why Paris is burning

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bruto Blukowski, Nov 4, 2005.

  1. #71     Nov 7, 2005
  2. How about 10,000 people dying in a heatwave?

    11 days of riots.

    Haven't created a job since sometime in the mid 70's.

    I speak of France and Germany.
     
    #72     Nov 7, 2005
  3. traderob

    traderob

    ""In the current issue of City Journal, Theodore Dalrymple concludes a piece on British suicide bombers with this grim summation of the new Europe: "The sweet dream of universal cultural compatibility has been replaced by the nightmare of permanent conflict." That sounds a lot like a new Dark Ages.""
     
    #73     Nov 7, 2005
  4. What the european gov'ts dont understand is that there is a good portion of the muslim population that DOESN'T want to be apart of their society, they want everyone to convert to their idea.

    Therein lies the problem.
     
    #74     Nov 7, 2005
  5. Permanent conflict? That's a bit over the top. There have barely been enough incidents to qualify as intermittent.

    I like Dalrymple, but he's as susceptible to the occasional howler as anyone else.
     
    #75     Nov 7, 2005
  6. traderob

    traderob

    Take another read- isn't he contrasting a utopian (that has never happened) dream of the future with the nightmare (that has also not yet happened) of conflict.
     
    #76     Nov 7, 2005
  7. TGregg

    TGregg

    On the twelth day of rioting my French youth gave to me,
    12 fire-bombed churches
    11 schools in ashes
    10 cities burning
    9 shots a ringing,
    8 crisis meetings,
    7 dumpsters burning,
    6 ransacked buses,
    5 scorched Peugoooooots,
    4 broken skulls,
    3 tear gas bombs,
    2 French Fried teens,
    And not a word that they might be Muslimsssssss
     
    #77     Nov 7, 2005
  8. maxpi

    maxpi

    Ha Ha!! You think you speak for all America. Maybe you are the true representative of the people and should do a power grab??
     
    #78     Nov 7, 2005
  9. You are more of an idiot than TM_ is!!

    Hey Maxipad, can you check "sarcasm!"
     
    #79     Nov 7, 2005
  10. Sam123

    Sam123 Guest

    What’s really misleading is avoiding the subject of Islam being part of their identity altogether. This is what the Cultural Relativists, the Multiculturalists, and the preachers of “tolerance” all do: they avoid the sensitive subjects completely. That’s not tolerance; that’s pure intellectual negligence.

    Western politicians have been talking about fighting poverty and discrimination for decades. Providing employment is always good, but it’s pointless when you have open borders and runaway ethnocentric immigrant populations. It’s also pointless talking about fighting discrimination against Arabs while ignoring the fact that Arabs also discriminate.

    The politicians and the mainstream political groups have been carefully conditioned to keep political Islam out of the discussion completely. Of course the politicians are the last to know. If they were allowed to discuss how Muslim societies tick, they would have taken better care of their immigration policies a very long time ago, so they can integrate the amounts they can handle into French society.

    It’s ironic how Western leaders and thinkers are constantly accused of not understanding Muslims, while at the same time they are not allowed to discuss it.

    Palestine vs. Israel is a smoke screen; Islamic cultures vs. Western society is not.

    When this is all said and done, the leaders will listen to the same arguments coming from the same people: France is intolerant and fails to integrate Muslims because they banned the headscarf; France has all these white people staffing their government; these poor kids were torching cars because they can’t even find a piece of bread to eat. And so on and so on.; all the stuff that justifies the riots and encourages further ethnocentrism and classism among the rioting youth, who are once again enabled and justified for their bad behavior.
     
    #80     Nov 7, 2005