Why no bible books between 450BC and 60AD?

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by nitro, Apr 8, 2007.

  1. Jesus,

    Question from the lowliest part of the congregation - you ever been in a titty bar? Or on a vicious drunk?
     
    #81     Apr 10, 2007
  2. The world is a titty bar for the Son of God. It's what he made while on a vicious drunk.

    So yes! The selections were tempting.

    Jesus
     
    #82     Apr 10, 2007
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    #83     Apr 11, 2007
  4. man

    man

    very well said, Sir.
     
    #84     Apr 11, 2007
  5. Actually the problem is quite simple. The only real problem is that People (the finite) are somehow convinced they can argue about infinite things. People try to argue away God, which would be a topic a million times more complex than things like the nature of dark matter/energy, or trying to explain the universe as an 11 dimensional construct or as an infinite multiverse, each with its own set of numbers (constants). If we cannot understand what is around us, then we are incapable of even beginning an argument on God. Our reasoning is little better than a colony of ants.

    There is only one "religion" with any kind of powerful evidence behind it. It is actually a family relationship between God and His people, not a religion. And it makes it absolutely clear that humanity cannot grasp or reason it on their own. It even says quite clearly, it is presented so that "it is foolishness to those that are perishing"

    I would happily wager on the likelihood that people who rail against Biblical Christianity even spent 50 hours seriously pondering the nature of fulfilled prophecy before going skeptical. Just about every skeptic I have met assumes that deciding that God does not exist is the enlightened thing to do. Of course they have no evidence to this end, and keep rambling precisely the kinds of things that Scripture said they would...

    Sadly, negative replies to this post will be more of the same. I guess we will have to wait a few years to see who is right.
     
    #85     Apr 11, 2007
  6. There is much wisdom in what you say. I find the contents of Scripture far exceeds the followers...
     
    #86     Apr 11, 2007
  7. If the Scripture is to be taken as the source for what Jesus said, then it is a major gaffe to think that Christianity was not about Him.

    Vast sections of Old Testament prophecy were looking to the coming of Messiah, the gospels were completely focused on Him. The Epistles teach about Him, and the Revelation is focused on Him in a triumphal mode.

    And when multiple times it made obvious that Jesus knew He was God. When Thomas said to Him, "My Lord and My God" Jesus accepted it. When Jesus finally admitted to that they would see the Son of Man returning on the clouds, which was an obvious self-God reference from the OT, this was the "blasphemy" that the Jewish leaders convicted Him on. And many times He said the "Father and I are one" and when He refers to himself as "I AM" several times, this was the same term as used by the Father. There are plenty of other references of similar note.
     
    #87     Apr 11, 2007
  8. Before time, space and form, much confusion followed a false premise: that the Son of God could be his own Creator. Though impossible, it could be imagined...hence, the dream-state of this world.

    In this world, we can imagine that the Father is not our Father. Instead, we call ourselves "son's of man". A story is made up about the first man, and how he was made. It is said that "God" made man in his own image. But actually, this is a made-up "God", in the image of the ego that made man.

    The ego was made by the Son of God to accomplish the impossible: to create himself. "Man" - form, flesh - is the ego's product.

    So whether you say you are the son of evolutionary processes, or the son of man, you are saying the same thing: you are the son of the ego, and prefer it that way. Whatever made man is not God, so to say you are a child of any god who makes man is also to say the same thing: I am the son of ego/man.

    Man is a self-image that makes Hollywood look like a child's play.

    In this way, the Son of God has created himself, making up the gods that allegedly created him, while denying he made them up. This explains why the behavior of the gods reflects the rationale of the mind that imagines them. Confusion reigns supreme.

    To remedy this situation, I emphasized that I was the Son of a Father Who did not make this world...but who created me. I renounced this world at every opportunity. I called myself the "son of man" because I was a parody, teaching by comparisons.

    I teach by comparison because the mind of man is split and must compare false with true before he can make an effective choice. Ultimately, the false does not exist. But while man thinks it does, it is held up to comparison.

    Ultimately, the "son of man" does not exist, leaving the "only begotten" Son of God as the only reality.


    Jesus
     
    #88     Apr 11, 2007
  9. man

    man

    you got me completely wrong. i do not doubt about
    him being what he said he was. but if we all are
    "children of god" where is the difference to a "son"?
    and in my eyes what jesus said must be seen in
    spiritual and social context. and as for "father and I
    are one": this is the very goal and target of each
    spiritual seeker. jesus was a realised one, yet not the
    first and not the last. and it is dogmatic thinking to
    assume that the last sentence is diminishing jesus.
    far from that.

    too literal interpretation of ancient texts leads to confusion.
    people should be aware that the bible is not the only
    book god "wrote". and that jesus is not his only "son".
    and that the terms "book of god" and "son of god" are
    today often perverted to justify power politics. in fact
    that has been the case for very long time ...
     
    #89     Apr 11, 2007
  10. The gaffe revolves around making me special, individual, exceptional.

    I am made "divine" while you are made "man".

    This traps you. This is divide-and-conquer mentality. But truth sets you free.

    Man in the product of a mind that has obliterated the memory of God. In this process, the Son of God has nearly destroyed himself, because he can only know himself relative to his oneness with himself and with his Creator.

    The process of remembering God involves setting up pre-requisite states of mind so that the truth may enter unobstructed.

    I remembered God because I saw the face of Christ in all my brothers. This is pre-requisite. Christianity, as you know it, defeats this pre-requisite. So it remains in the dark.

    To remember "me" is to remember your brothers. They appear as "bodies" to the unlearned eye. The bodies act strangely, foolishly. This is a false front, the effect of a confused mind. Looking beyond, you can see the Son of God in each of them.

    If you do this, you will remember God. It is pre-requisite that you appreciate his Son, before you can remember your Father. This is how you become "realized". This is what "self-realization"
    means.

    Perhaps Christianity ought to be about Christ. But it does not know what Christ is or means because the pre-requisites to realizing that are obstructed. This is merely a continuation of the same theme that made this world. Over time, the truth will prevail.

    Jesus
     
    #90     Apr 11, 2007