What is alive can never die. What can die was never alive to begin with. A dead Christ does not exist. Death is a delusional experience. The delusion would prove that Christ can die. The material worlds are the "proof". The material worlds are where substitutes die, in Christ's place, so-to-speak. The target is Christ. The sufferers are the substitutes. The following is a brief sketch how Christ "descends" to the material world(s). This is the same as the proverbial "fall", a synonym for descend. In the quest for more, the logic leads to less. It is impossible to have more, or be more, than Christ. It is also impossible to have less, or be less, than Christ. Less, is a concept introduced to answer the stupid question: Is there more than my Self? The concept of less-than facilitates the establishment of differences, which is the root of inequality. Take equality for example. As said, Christ could be an uncountable number of Beings. Because they are equal, they are uncountable. The relevant term is "One". This is perfect equality. What is more than equality? More than one? Here is how the concept of more leads to less. To prove there are many, you must, conceptually, start to make distinctions between one and another. Since you cannot add more, you must take something away. In this way, new "beings" are "created" by taking more and more away from Christ. This is the genesis of a similar concept: hierarchy. Take away a little power and maybe you can create an "arch angel". Take away a little more power and you can create a regular angel. Even more, you can make a man. Even more, you can make a monkey. Even more, you can make a snake. Down, down, down a ladder of power, down to the most powerless being that could theoretically exist. The material world(s) is where the concept of this hierarchy plays out, and is proven, so-called. In a world of differences, every being is technically special, so-called. Special status indicates one has achieved, somehow, more than any other being. In this strange world, even a worm can be special if indeed one worm can be even slightly distinguished from another worm. Among men, you can be special by being either the poorest man that ever lived, or, the richest man than ever lived. In so many ways, each is established as special, as long as the concept of less-than holds. The sickest man in the world is special by having less health than the healthiest man in the world. Thus, man abides in a paradox. Less is more. More is less. It depends on your perspective/perception. Man, for example has more than a woman. Or does he? Maybe women have more than men by having less than men? Right brained people have more, or less, then left brained people. In any case, each man or woman is special. The quest for special status is tracked, for example, by the Guinness Book of World Records. Book or no, special status is a core motivating force in the experience of mankind. In this way, man is indeed "like" his maker, in that the maker is also very much about establishing special status via differences, and hierarchy, all stolen/taken from Christ. In this way, the concept of more becomes the basis of inequality, and from inequality arises the happenstance of inequity. In this way, mankind has gained, so-to-speak, more than Christ, by establishing, as if foundational, special status as a fact of existence. With these facts, so-to-speak, man's maker proves there is more than Christ, using the material world(s) as a kind of kangaroo court. In this kangaroo court, only man's maker is allowed to submit evidence. There is so little evidence for equality in this world, that when we see twins, we tend to marvel. Examine closer and even twins will gain special status. It's not really true that man is/was created/born equal. Take a little bit away from one twin and give it to the other, and visa versa. Then each is special. Each has more than the other. There is even a nation of peoples who have lauded a narrative suggesting that man's maker has chosen them for special status. The narrative states they were the chosen between twins (Jacob and Esau). This narrative (religion) basically asserts that Christ ("God") establishes and blesses inequality, and by extension, hierarchy. In a world of paradox, any so-called blessing may also be a curse. Special status provokes envy and hatred by any who are not included in the so-called blessings of being special. Eventually, this narrative (religion) was extended to include more peoples in a special relationship with Christ (God). One of it's prime curators, a one Paul, talked about a hierarchy as part of an end game. He said man is made a little lower than the angels, but might gain some ascendancy over angels if he plays his cards right. All of these narratives establishing (normalizing) inequality are part of the status quo that is at war with the equality of Christ. This then is a sketch how Christ descends, so-to-speak, to become a substitute for Christ (man), only to suffer and die.
So man is now playing poker with God. What kind of dualistic claptrap are you spewing here? Yer out of your mind! Face it hon...When you die, there is nothing but non-existence. There is no God to save your soul, because the entire concept of a soul is a bunch of mewling humans trying to figure out their place in the universe. Newsflash! You don't HAVE a place in the universe! Duh? You have, like every other philosopher before you, succumbed to EGO. The severe want to be important and recognized for what you do not know. You are simply NOT IMPORTANT OR RELEVANT, because you do not exist beyond the NOW.
Well there's Christ, and there is a concept: God. I prefer the term Christ because "God" has been usurped to mean man's maker, that is, the maker of the material world(s). This usurper is to Christ what a demon is to man. Christ is greater than man's maker, so Christ is the only one which can deliver man from his maker. Man's maker is playing games with Christ, using man as Christ's substitutes. In this scheme, man is arguably a willing participant in the trolling of Christ. Christ does not really participate in these games except to give attention to the original proposition: Is there more than Me/Christ/Self? The participants are borrowing, if not outright taking power from the mind of Christ to give attention to concepts that offer to add more to what Christ already is. The participants venture out into the unknown with brand new concepts (new world order) and are betrayed by same over time. Gambling is a concept arising out of the new world order of what Christ is supposed to be. All participants are gambling as each decision leads to either pain or pleasure. In Christ (in Reality) there are no decisions in which there is risk involved. Reality is perfectly safe. Actually, my points here are the most non-dualistic you've ever heard. Only Christ exists, with qualities that have no opposite alternatives. As such, Christ is joy, 100% joy, without a hint of sadness. Man, on the other hand, is a dualistic animal, experiencing both of everything. Thus, man technically has "more" than Christ, having/being both the appearance of "good" (only Christ is good) and the appearance of good's opposite alternatives ("evil"). If man did exist, then yes, i would be talking about dualistic clap trap. But man does not exist. Who, or what are you talking to? If you are talking to "i" the ego, then yes, when the ego is shut down, it returns to the non-existence (void, nothing) from which it came. What do you mean God? I am not depending on man's maker to save my Soul, which is Christ. Nor am i depending on Christ to save the ego that man's maker gave me. I am only interested in saving Christ from a kind of double-mindedness that would destroy Christ, if it could. Humans are always trying to find their place in the material worlds, in the universi (plural) that man's maker has provided. This is particularly true of those peoples who are still addicted to the concept of special status. I am not interested in special status, or any place in any hierarchy. What kind of news flash? A CNN kind of news flash? All that flashes is not news. What i'm sharing is actual news, being very new to even the more advanced philosophers (lovers of wisdom) on the planet. The ego that i temporarily sport, indeed, has no place in Christ. Christ IS the universe. Egos abide in any number of fake universi, each flashing across Christ's attention like some fraudulent "news". Any ego appearing in a body has, at some point, succumbed to the prime ego, man's maker, having succumbed to the enticing proposition that there may be more to Christ than what Christ already is. This includes too many philosophers who sound good, but have not come near what i am sharing here. Jesus and Gautama Buddha descended to the egoic experience of man the same way we all did, exploring paradoxical concepts as described in my previous post. Gautama went far (in the reversal of the descension), but stopped one step short, and went through one more re-incarnation. Jesus put the ego completely to death, so-to-speak, and did not return, resuming his place as Christ, his Soul/Self. There is no "now" like you think, as time is very much an illusion. What is now is Christ, having no past nor future, just changeless eternality. In Christ, there is no sense of importance, which is an expression of the special status that is of such importance in the material world(s) of hierarchy. In leaving this world, where importance is important, anyone sharing what i'm sharing could temporarily experience special status. It's not the end game, however. I am not more important than Gautama or Jesus, but also not less.
It is interesting to note that through that whole lengthy quote, you refer to "Christ, Christ, Christ", but only in the very last sentence did you mention Jesus.
The appearance of a body, any body, including the body of Jesus, is the manifestation of ego. Jesus was aware of this, making a strong distinction between the appearance of the ego, and Christ: "Why do you call me good? Only my Father is good". Or something to that effect. The material is not good, despite the first few sentences of the main Jewish narrative, where man's maker calls his manufacturing "good". Christ is not a man, not any man, including Jesus. You still don't get it. Man is like dirt on the body of Christ (Christ has no body, it's a parable you idiots!). Baptism is the washing of dirt off of Christ. When the dirt is all washed off, there is Christ, standing alone, clean. So Jesus does not exist. The ego that was Jesus, however, realized this, and volunteered to die. Once the ego that was Jesus was dead, the dirt that made it impossible to see or experience Self as Christ was gone. Once gone, Christ could resume normal experience as Christ. This is according to Jesus own formula: "Those who strive to hold on to there lives will lose their lives, but those who lay down their lives for my sake (Christ's sake), will save it". Jesus is an early example how notorious one can become when they fully realize, and accept Christ as Self, as i am advocating here. I would not depend on most media, films, for accurate info about Christ. Nor would i depend on most official stories, narratives, religions.
So you depend upon your own interpretation of the Bible, and you expect everyone else here to do the same? Why all the proselytizing? You are trying to be Saul/Paul, but are not doing a very good job of it.
The assembled collection of narratives known as the "bible" ARE an interpretation! They serve an agenda which, to me, is obvious. The agenda is not obvious to anyone still serving the ego. Paul was a complete fraud, extending fraudulent Jewish narratives to Gentiles, by tempting them with special status according to faith, rather than bloodline. So no, i'm not trying to be an apostate like Paul/Saul, a leopard that did not change his spots, despite the newish rhetoric. Paul/Saul was educated and trained by one of the high priest in all things Jewish, and first gained fame (special status) by persecuting some of the most authentic teachers of Jesus philosophy, going so far to hold coats for those who stoned Stephen. At some point, man's maker chose Paul/Saul, or Paul/Saul chose himself, to finish the destruction of the authentic teachings from the inside. Much more effective. Paul was good at name-dropping, trying to gain authority by association. For one thing, i don't publish the name of my ego. Nor do i capitalize "I" when referencing the ego identity. Nor do i quote the bible as if it was an authority i needed to associate with. In case you didn't know, every parable requires your own interpretation, especially if the interpretation is not supplied. In your interpretation you will either be right, if it comes from Christ/Self, or wrong, if it comes from your ego/self attachment. At some point, you have to stop being a follower, and be the leader that is Christ. This is true even if you rightly followed Jesus example. If you did, you too would become a leader, temporarily. I am broadcasting. I don't care as much about conversions as did Paul/Saul. There are no rewards awaiting me for how much "wheat" i "harvested". Broadcasting is more like clearing the air of stinking smoke. If you're in a stinking room full of smoke you feel like opening windows, turning on a fan, and airing it out so you can breath. In this way, broadcasting is a joy for me. I don't have any mandate to convert anyone, as i am assuming ever man is a willing participant in his own demise. I am not attempting to stop the participants from participating in the temptations of hell. I am shortening the time it take my ego attachment finally give up, and die. The influence i am able wield is very much dependent on successful detachment from the ego's domain. Peak influence comes when actively, and effectively leaving the egoic domain. At best, i could save a few other egos some time, as all egos are destined to die, voluntarily, after becoming weary with so many re-incarnations.
So you are, in effect, proselytizing. And wait until your spiritual mind finally wakes up to the fact, yes FACT, that there is no re-incarnation.
That depends on your interpretation of proselytizing. I save time by shortening the time egos experience hell, by helping them hasten the time it takes for them to volunteer to die. I do this by providing a clear and consistent mental framework with which to stabilize their ability to reason. I help clean/clear up a lot of the dirty dysfunctional cognitive dissonance, by promoting singleness of mind. There is no group, in the egos domain, that i am trying to get other egos to join. I simply encourage egos to more quickly lay down their so-called "lives" for Christ's sake, by letting them know that Christ is their immortal Soul. Even though this is a much better deal, egos would rather re-incarnate (experience multiple deaths) than give up their attachments to all things anti-Christ. Technically, you're right, there is no such thing as re-incarnation, just as there is no such thing as incarnation. Man's first incarnation is not more legitimate than his last. All incarnations are part of a grand delusion. But as an experience of delusion, yes, multiple incarnations are the norm. Mostly, i save my own time (shorten my experience of hell). Inasmuch as the human experience is still a unified experience, i save everyone time.