Why Japanese Yen appreciate even under negative rate?

Discussion in 'Economics' started by creditcard, Jul 17, 2016.

  1. when i was a amature in trading in the occurrence time of Tsunami , i did a short sell trade on Japanese Yen ,but it had a sharp bullish trending movement . when it comes to Tsunami however it destroys infrastructure and as it turns out currency value should decrease but in reality it means central bank has to offer loans to companies in order to rebuild the country .so interest rate should be decreased and when ALL companies RUSH into borrowing currency from government ,that currency is safe heaven which means will not going any lower than current rate. so as a result Japanese Yen increased against USD.
     
    #11     Jul 18, 2016
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  2. JackRab

    JackRab

    o_O
     
    #12     Jul 18, 2016
  3. There is NO flight into JGBs and out of foreign assets. In fact, net purchases of foreign assets by the Japanese hit a record last week.
     
    #13     Jul 18, 2016
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  4. JackRab

    JackRab

    That coincides with a drop in Yen, so I totally get that. You pick a week where Yen has dropped, because BOJ will start more easing and possibly even heli-money.
    But not from mid 2015 until mid 2016, where a rise in Yen came because of uncertainty...
     
    #14     Jul 18, 2016
  5. Nein nein nein, you ist wrong... Observe the trends from mid 2015 to the present.

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    #15     Jul 18, 2016
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  6. JackRab

    JackRab

    Hmm, ja jaaa... I stand corrected @Martinghoul ;)

    I think your earlier point of real interest rates is a good explanation too...
     
    #16     Jul 18, 2016
  7. I think it was actually Maverick's point, if I am not mistaken... Credit where credit is due and all that jazz, y'know.
     
    #17     Jul 18, 2016
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  8. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Aww shucks Marty...:)
     
    #18     Jul 18, 2016
  9. eurusdzn

    eurusdzn

    Supposedly, 25% of Japanese corporates re-patriations occur in March.
    A shift in US bias in February. A 125 USD/JPY level that may have not been a plus for the world.
    Loss of faith in BOJ's tools available to to devalue cause a spike or two in the yen early in the year(Martingoul 2016).
    Real rate differentials as Yen positve(Mav 2016).
    An IMF study providing evidence capital flows do not/have not historically describe the Yen as a safe currency.

    https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2013/wp13228.pdf

    I will bet that this months long trend is over and the Yen will range moving forward.
     
    #19     Jul 18, 2016
  10. JackRab

    JackRab

    Rightly so... I need more coffee today... ;)
     
    #20     Jul 18, 2016