Why is the Yen so different?

Discussion in 'Forex' started by SomeYoungGuy, May 7, 2010.

  1. Yes, it takes a while to orient one's self to the Yen.
     
    #21     May 9, 2010
  2. DrEvil

    DrEvil

    I always find a few shots of warm saki put me in the right grove to trade the Yen. It really works, give it a try.
     
    #22     May 9, 2010
  3. Yep, I also have found that Yen is a bit different from other majors. S/R levels need to be adjusted only for Yen if you want to trade Yen. On the top of that, its volatility is so bad...so I don't even bother trading Yen.
     
    #23     Jun 9, 2016
  4. Esha.J

    Esha.J

    The JPY has been strong for about 5 years and there is no fundamental reason for it. The most likely scenario is the JPY will oscillate on a small range against the other currencies you have mentioned for the forseeable future.
     
    #24     Jun 10, 2016
  5. emg

    emg

    I take that back. the reason yen is different because the japanese bombed pearl harbor
     
    #25     Jun 10, 2016
  6. minst

    minst

    As the japanese economy is internally very strong due to their service sector so the central bank does not thinks much for the world economy before making any valuation.
    Japan is commodity reactive and very strong from IT support.
    The economy can be judged from the index as their main Index moves exactly opposite to the currency always.
     
    #26     Oct 26, 2016
  7. Zzzz1

    Zzzz1

    disagree with that as reason because when you look at most of the inter-bank flows in yen (and all others) the money originates mostly with CBs, real money, and hedgers, rather than speculative retail money. While it is true that there was a time when a lot of housewives in Japan punted fx that trend may have been temporary, at least I have not heard nor read of such since after the financial crisis. Looks like a lot of the carry trade mommies got flushed out badly.

    What I discovered re yen was that except the times when risk was taken onto/off the books, which is when there is a lot of one-way flow in/out of the yen, the yen as basket contributes actually very little to all yen crosses. You can see that when you run a PCA on the pairs by perusing the contributing baskets (eg., USDJPY, the dollar and yen baskets). The same can be found when you correlate the yen basket with USDJPY, for example, and also correlate the dollar basket with USDJPY. You see that except during strong risk on/off time spans, the dollar flow dominates the yen in driving USDJPY. That's just a quantitative reason.

    Obviously a lot of currencies, but particularly the yen are skewed for years now due to the unprecedented central bank involvement. That is definitely messing with the market but I find it harder to quantify.

     
    #27     Oct 26, 2016
  8. I can't disagree with much of what you state above...

    However, IMHO, the underlying core phenomenon remains simply that Japan is a society with a lot of savings (corporate and consumer) and not a lot of places to invest.
     
    #28     Oct 26, 2016
  9. Zzzz1

    Zzzz1

    but those savings are all parked/locked up in pension accounts. Nobody trades those, most of those savings are even never currency converted as they are invested in JGBs, local agency bonds, and domestic equities. What makes you believe those savings impact the yen? Thanks


     
    #29     Oct 26, 2016
  10. This is one of the reasons (I think I have posted a link to this chart before):
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    Obviously, much depends on whether these purchases/sales are hedged, but I would argue that these flows are very meaningful for the ccy either way.
     
    #30     Oct 26, 2016