Why Is The Obvious Not So Obvious?

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by nysestocks, Jan 25, 2009.

  1. Ricky Roma

    Ricky Roma

    There once were two friends called High and Low
    But ol' Stoploss whacked 'em above and below
    The average pips maimed
    Was down to timeframe
    Know your scale and you'll steal the show
     
    #8281     Mar 14, 2023
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  2. So I just realized I could reply directly in here which is helpful. I could never figure out the and options password (kept trying so hard to figure it out!) I tried things like “clock” “tick” “time” and other generic things I could think of. Anyways, I feel pretty confused. Are you guys talking about trading against other traders? I had another idea too. Is there some sort of cycle of blown accounts where patterns work and then gradually work less and less by changing? Am I thinking too much? Sometimes I have trouble even interpreting the patterns because I can’t put them into a pattern box that makes sense because it feels random at a certain point… but is that the case? Any help appreciated.
     
    #8282     Apr 7, 2023
  3. So you’re saying that the obvious is that it’s a person’s impatience that stops them from being profitable?
     
    #8283     Apr 7, 2023
  4. Sorry, still knocking my brain over this thread. I’ve been rereading it for months because I feel like there has got to be some value here. I wonder if the real value is I need to “think” and not become sheep. That is so hard because I even second guess myself all the time even when I’m potentially right. I have some ideas for how to trade what I see and not what I want to see. I have even made this work. Sadly, it seems like the market will change too fast for me to adapt. Maybe that is where experience comes in. I don’t know. Does being a contrarian mean trading against others or is the OP saying that I need to use different tools like something like point in figure which does not rely on time? If I do not backtest, how can I ever know? Backtesting software now days let’s me play in “real time”. If I go through it slowly enough, would this be more sensible? Is it really just using the right tools or is it using the wrong tools in the right way? The OP says to not think the same way as others do but other people (the herd) seem to believe in risk control which is actually a herd belief? But at the same time, the OP says that walking the path is different from knowing the path so maybe they were getting at the idea that we need to exercise control instead of just knowing that we need control? Is it even possible to get the anf options pdf password now? I can’t see the original chart images etc. I’ve come to deduce that TA (price action) does work (according to the OP) but other means of analysis do not seem to work. I tend to use candles… I can see what the charts are showing me what other traders are thinking…. Am I getting close?
     
    #8284     Apr 10, 2023
  5. Overnight

    Overnight

    Backtest is pointless, because you are testing what happened in the past. That is NOT what is going to happen in the future. You should include a touch of FA to guide your decisions. Like this coming Wednesday with the CPI and Fed minutes being released. And Euro markets were closed today for Easter Monday. Hold onto your potatoes!
     
    #8285     Apr 10, 2023
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  6. If you can’t accurately reproduce the same behavior that made you money in the past, then what is the point? Backtesting software allows you to replay in real time and you can see the historical events. If you can’t succeed in Backtesting, why would you possibly succeed in live?
     
    #8286     Apr 10, 2023
  7. Does the obvious still occur? Also, can I get a hint for the anf options pdf?
     
    #8287     Apr 10, 2023
  8. Overnight

    Overnight

    Because the PAST is not the FUTURE! Oy!
     
    #8288     Apr 10, 2023
  9. Yeah but if you can’t find a way to define the probability, wouldn’t you just be better picking an entry at random?
     
    #8289     Apr 10, 2023
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  10. Don’t get me wrong. I like the idea of mindful trading but shouldn’t you be able to backtest this also?
     
    #8290     Apr 10, 2023