Why Is The Obvious Not So Obvious?

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by nysestocks, Jan 25, 2009.

  1. M4-1

    M4-1

    i will jump in here..why.. because i can..

    THERE is absolutely NO NEED to read thru the vast pages of this thread..or ANY thread for that matter..

    there is..HOWEVER..a very important word that one needs to pick up on..and it is in the FIRST post of this thread..and it is..well..let's see who gets it right..i can give some clues if required..but i really don't think they are required :)
     
    #7881     Nov 6, 2021
  2. Pelt

    Pelt

    "something that must exist or happen before something else can exist or happen"
     
    #7882     Nov 6, 2021
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  3. sandy_s

    sandy_s

    This probably helps if you think about a sport.

    A good boxer knows the rules of the game and can predict most of the time when the opponent is going to throw or fold. One obviously knows what happens to the boxer who fails to look for the “obvious” signs..

    Same with the bridge player...though rules are different..
     
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    #7883     Nov 6, 2021
  4. Onra

    Onra

    It's intriguing how the few "in the know",
    keep repeating the same information with the same words...
    If studying this for + 10 years didn't switch on the lightbulb;
    why do you think anything will change without new clues?

    A few posts back I asked:
    So we're left with two options:
    a. you know that price must reach a certain level (within a certain TF)
    b. you know that has to come back to a certain level


    Maybe someone would kindly answer the question...?
     
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    #7884     Nov 7, 2021
  5. M4-1

    M4-1

    certainly..but you probably won't like the answer :)

    your first question..

    you don't know anything about price "must" reach a certain level..where did you get that idea from !!!

    2nd question..

    same answer !!!

    the reason the light bulb has not switched on..is simple..in that..in order for it to switch on you must first throw the switch !!!

    do you fully understand what this means?

    remember that things change.. reading about Mr Livermore or some other gobshite..is about as much use as reading about peter pan..total waste of time..

    if you want to read and understand..then reread the 2 books you were given..and then you might be able to say that you have your fnger on the switch..

    i sometimes wonder why most find it so hard to grasp the realities of trading..but..then i remember back when i was the biggest monkey of them all..and it took many years and many losses before the light truly shone bright..

    comprendez vous ?
     
    #7885     Nov 7, 2021
  6. M4-1

    M4-1

    i said it before..and i will now say it again..

    look up the video of the man in the street with the big sign saying "free money here today"..

    then you will realize the reality of trading :)
     
    #7886     Nov 7, 2021
  7. Onra

    Onra

    I might have solved the RIG riddle this morning,
    but partially
    and it's totally different then everything I've read in these books..o_O
     
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    #7887     Nov 7, 2021
  8. I'd be careful getting the idea that price can be predicted with any certainty. That way of thinking can lead to overconfidence, excessive risk taking and ultimately the poorhouse.

    Out of interest, what sort of trading do you want to do? Intra-day? Or holding a position for a few days? Or weeks?
    What do you trade? Index futures, stocks, commodities, currencies, cryptos?
    What sort of annual return, on your capital, are you aiming for? 10%, 20%, 30%, 50%, 100%?
     
    #7888     Nov 8, 2021
  9. Onra

    Onra

    Absolutely correct!
    Everyone in the know that I've read or spoke privately, warned about "anything can happen"
    But I'm intrigued by that 95% claim from nysestocks...

    Once the Holy Grail is found, it appears you can trade anything;
    even on 1 min. charts, but I think you have to keep an eye on the Higher TF's.

    I like FX; mainly the majors (M4-1 doesn't like this :p)
    A good entry might last 2 - 3 days...

    (the RIG chart was a Higher TF trade)
     
    #7889     Nov 8, 2021
  10. If anyone was able to consistently predict with that degree of accuracy, then they'd be very quickly richer than Warren Buffett. :D

    Looking at a very crude long term chart of RIG, in early Apr 2009 it appeared to be trending up from a low in late Dec 2008. Odds were it might keep going up, which it did.
     
    #7890     Nov 8, 2021