Why Is The Obvious Not So Obvious?

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by nysestocks, Jan 25, 2009.

  1. MrScalper

    MrScalper

    The only thing that I can think of that makes a difference is different groups might be using certain timeframes to initiate trades.

    If you are looking at the hourly bar chart..and initiate a trade off the 1 min bar chart..then you are not really following the hourly group..are you?

    Standard text book trading will cause you to lose money..for if it helped you make money then every retail trader would be successful..which of course is not a fact.

    If you are following the hourly traders..then you must trade using the hourly chart.. common sense..no!

    Next question is..how do you know what group is using the hourly chart..and for the ES are you sure any major group is trading using the hourly chart?

    So many if's and but's..and all really to no avail!

    What was posted in the first post again.. something about a prerequisite..is a prerequisite not something that must happen before something else..in other words.. one must do something before one initiates or closes a trade..what might this something be?
     
    #5811     Jun 28, 2017
  2. MrScalper

    MrScalper

    For a start if I were you I would use a bar chart..it might not seem important to you now..but when trading it might become very important..if it makes no difference to you..then use a bar chart!
     
    #5812     Jun 28, 2017
  3. MrScalper

    MrScalper

    You don't know how lucky you are having no idea..keep it that way and look at the market for what it really is..not what people think it might be!
     
    #5813     Jun 28, 2017
  4. _eug_

    _eug_

    I am mauling this over. I appreciating you posting and making my brain work here.

    Anyway today's trade is Short at 28.50, Stop 31, target 21.50, SHBL play. I entered pre-market. Again still paper trading as a self punishment.
     
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    #5814     Jun 28, 2017
  5. MrScalper

    MrScalper

    Stop might be too tight..but it depends on what way you are trading and how much you are risking per trade?

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    #5815     Jun 28, 2017
  6. _eug_

    _eug_

    Looking over the EUR/USD... Looks like a textbook buy high sell higher setup happened last night. EUROUSD.jpg
     
    #5816     Jun 28, 2017
  7. MrScalper

    MrScalper

    Why would you look at the Euro if you are trading the ES..does not make any sense!

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    #5817     Jun 28, 2017
  8. _eug_

    _eug_

    Got stopped out of the short.

    I got a few markets as a watchlist which I check every few hours. Not to take trades but just to study market behavior and make observations.
     
    #5818     Jun 28, 2017
  9. MrScalper

    MrScalper

    Waste of time.. you are not paying attention..which is why you got stopped out.. you were making money but let your "opinion" get in the way.. you will never make money trading like that..this is a very serious business..and very costly for those who dabble without paying full attention and doing the required work..no gain without the pain..the "easy money" story is for the gullible..one of the hardest jobs ever to master..but when you do.. you will sit back and laugh at all the fools who "work" for a living :)
     
    #5819     Jun 28, 2017
  10. _eug_

    _eug_

    Right there is the obvious reason why I lose money in trading.

    On the same note. I am short again here from 2430.75. Same target as before. Look to me like we ran out of buyers on this breakout.
     
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    #5820     Jun 28, 2017