Why Is The Obvious Not So Obvious?

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by nysestocks, Jan 25, 2009.

  1. Fair enough:)

    It took me over 6 years to see my obvious, and i'm now just realizing the simplicity of the markets. I just need to refine my execution skills. Took a break from it 5 years ago after I bought a home and started a family. Not much room to gamble

    I haven't touched a trading book for a while. Do you recommend anything that may help us think for ourselves? Doesn't have to be trading related. Thanks
     
    #2771     Dec 12, 2011
  2. J Ski

    J Ski

    We cancelled the Directv.
    Have not watched tv for about
    a month straight .
    We play console games on it.
    I read the feeds that come on ATP.
    First week was a little strange but as soon as
    you realize most of the shows are pure shit
    it gets easier.
    Do something to divert your brain from
    the market, give it some downtime and you
    will find that you have alot of energy to focus
    on trading and enjoy it.

    Take up a hobby, art, music, writing, put away the calculator
    do some math by hand, garden, read poetry, do something
    completely different then what you would normally
    ever think you would like doing.
     
    #2772     Dec 13, 2011
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    #2773     Feb 13, 2012
  4. bogan22

    bogan22

    back to 35 again.

    regards
    The bogan
     
    #2774     Mar 3, 2012
  5. Higher low in this chart, and it wouldn't have taken very long to see where the most recent low was.

    If it goes into the 35-35.40 range it's a lower high, but if it keeps going, unless it's into the next range it'll still be a lower high where the market will reverse down.
     
    #2775     Mar 3, 2012
  6. davroz

    davroz

    Quite a long thread, it took a while reading it and the other related thread 'If you want to fail as a trader, study TA'.

    So to summarise what seems to being said:

    1. A daytrader requires an instrument with adequate daily range.

    2. TA is not needed.

    3. Volume is not needed.

    4. Trend lines are not needed.

    5. Note horizontal S/R levels where the major players react.

    6. Enter trades close to those levels for high RR.

    7. Set a price target based on measured moves.

    8. Set a stop loss based on volatility of bars on the TF being traded.

    9. Trading is gambling, so play the odds.

    10. Trade what you see, not what you think.

    11. There are no experts, except The Expert.:)
     
    #2776     Apr 29, 2012
  7. J Ski

    J Ski

    I've missed reading WITONSO thread.
     
    #2777     May 2, 2012
  8. bogan22

    bogan22

    Pretty close to my thoughts as well. Except for number 8 I don't recall advise on stop losses being based on volatility, but, I'll recheck my notes. I'll add in:

    12. Generals play in the higher timeframes follow the higher time frames.

    13. Don't predict just react (close to number 10.)

    14. Bee's buzz around those important levels.

    15. Most of the riddles were to hard for my tiny brain.

    16. Apparently box's save your sox'x. :D

    17. This is hard work.

    cheers
    TheBogan
     
    #2778     May 5, 2012
  9. EON Kid

    EON Kid

    gr8 post. I'm wondering with such a mindset how often do you get trade signals?
     
    #2779     May 5, 2012
  10. first in trading there is no obvious things. it is just full of uncertainity.

    if you know it is a winning trade, why not all in? since it is not obvious, you have no idea about your position whether it will win or not

    if you know it is a losing trade, why bother to enter? if I know beforehand, I will avoid it totally even no single share.

    money management or position size, just some academaic guys talk. it is non-sense. since they suppose

    suppose means ideal considerations. or daydream situations.

    just like an engineer, try to model some reality to some mathematically descriptive fucntions.no matter what they try to fit, always there lots of exceptions.

    warren buffet do not use position size, if he thinks it is a winner, he all in. why not?





     
    #2780     May 11, 2012