Why Is The Obvious Not So Obvious?

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by nysestocks, Jan 25, 2009.

  1. v34rm

    v34rm

    This is how you can trade like Jack. Step 1 take a price chart , Step 2 connect High and Low points Step 3 draw channel lines....step 4 call your trades after that and take the market offer......:D
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    #2171     Oct 23, 2011
  2. Sorry forgot to specify long or short. Short is a low risk and can be entered on next bar.
     
    #2172     Oct 23, 2011
  3. Mysteron

    Mysteron

    And not forgetting Mr Charts too.

    I'd not come across Elite34S, I'll read though the MATRIX as its quirky enough to grab my interest.

    I had thought for a while that TO was TE and that he had mellowed a bit, but there are certain things that were said that make me think they are different people but who share ideas from a common source.
     
    #2173     Oct 23, 2011
  4. So we must be very clear about the R/R ratio in our minds before we enter a trade. And as per the R/R increase positions until target achieved. Good, I'm beginning to think now.
     
    #2174     Oct 23, 2011
  5. rossky

    rossky

    Three Push here is the Second Leg down. I like it and I would like it even more if it were a pullback. So, my eyes here would be fixed on the bull move prior to that Three Push which didn't help the bulls to assert themselves but went up to the resistance level and there it failed.

    The Three Push as the Second Leg looks a bit disproportionate, so there may be a little room left to go down and screw the early bulls a bit more.

    Too much thinking = indecision = I wouldn't be trading here. Am I being to cautious or just wrong?
     
    #2175     Oct 23, 2011
  6. The first rule of gun running is to never get shot with your own merchandise.
    That fokin chart/instrument is MUCH harder to trade than the HAL chart posted prevoiusly.
    Since T=$ , skip that chart. That much is obvious, but probably only to me. I think TO is just in a fishing expedition... :)
     
    #2176     Oct 23, 2011
  7. I am not consistently profitable. Maybe next week. :)
    I do feel like the knowledge I've accumulated is valuable, but I was just wondering last night who these people are posting all of this stuff. It just seems strange to me. They may be a group of people who decided to try & help trader wannabees break out of the trap they all fall into of searching out & listening to "experts", or they may be people paid to make posts to generate traffic. Who knows?

    They do seem very knowledgeable about the markets, but they could also be philosophy majors just out of college who like to gamble & trade who haven't found real jobs yet.

    I guess in the end it doesn't matter. The one thing I've learned is that I need to "think" for myself & make my "own" plan, and that's it's all up to me. I was stuck in the cycle of searching for another method, another guru, another book, and I didn't even realize I wasn't using my own brain. These strange threads by these mysterious people woke me up.

    But I'm still curious as to who these people are starting these threads & why. TO..............who are you? :)
     
    #2177     Oct 23, 2011
  8. Redneck

    Redneck



    B193

    Here’s something to ponder

    Including myself, there have been about five different ways of trading being discussed as of recent

    Nothing is secrete on a chart – absolutely nothing

    There are more ways to make money trading…., than I care to count

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    I (or any trader for that matter) can take, for all practical purposes - a totally unprofitable methodology – and make money with it consistently


    Why is that?

    Figure out the answer, then you to can too

    The key has never resided in the method – never….

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    MAC

    You are a liar… You posted you had it.., no longer required this thread, and would not be returning

    That you returned – big whoop…

    That you lied…

    And started spewing bullshit to boot


    Traders may be some of the best bullshitters around – but the truth is more precious than money (or anything)

    May you never learn that

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    btw - I see the obvious has not been lost on you :p


    RN
     
    #2178     Oct 23, 2011
  9. Something I think is very obvious that not many consider is also commission costs compared in percentage terms to their avg win/loss. What percentage of each trade are you giving to the house?

    It can be detrimental over trading on smaller time frames when essentially you are giving the broker a big percentage of every win /loss you have. Especially if you lose more than you win.

    For instance trading something like /YM or /6b on lower time frames is disadvantages compared to trading /CL or /TF for example.

    Run the numbers yourself if you haven't already and you may be a bit surprised on the impact of the house advantage over you when it comes to spread/commission.

    A way to combat the impact of your broker costs on your bottom line is trading larger time frames, or more volatile instruments. CL, GC, 6E, , NG ect


    Just a thought...
     
    #2179     Oct 23, 2011
  10. baron193

    baron193

    RN my cynic comment was disguised too well huh?
    I must add my appologies for my spelling, it is my second language after all.
     
    #2180     Oct 23, 2011