Why is the market going up?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Wolfgang1756, Aug 30, 2011.

  1. Losing (for the majority) is a must, because of the negative sum nature of markets. Therefore, no amount of rules (designed for the majority) can save the majority. Even if you become part of the minority, you may still need to be in the minority of the minority, because trading is not a zero-sum, but a negative sum, where others (who do not trade/ do not take risks/etc) have to be paid first from the market, and are paid with certainty.

    PS: The above analysis assumes a trading population.
     
    #31     Aug 31, 2011
  2. GordonTheGekko

    GordonTheGekko Guest

    Are you saying most people in the markets lose? I don't think so.
     
    #32     Aug 31, 2011
  3. Why you do not think so?
     
    #33     Aug 31, 2011
  4. If you count the millions upon millions of people who have had IRAs and other pension funds for 10, 15, 20 years, then there are a LOT of people who have 'won' in the markets. It all depends on the population you're talking about.
     
    #34     Aug 31, 2011
  5. SP500 futs intra day chart now gives bearish warning so maybe
    yesterdays rally is ending.

    The sideways chop and short covering spikes is caused by recurring
    buy support conflicting with significant sell pressure.

    As mentioned, the big picture remains bearish and this will ALWAYS
    exert the most influence. The only thing GUARANTEED is that the
    bearish medium / long term cycle will have the upper hand.
     
    #35     Aug 31, 2011
  6. This.


     
    #36     Aug 31, 2011
  7. The market is going up because it wants to go up and because there is more demand to buy or cover than sell.

    I don' trade fundamentals, they are misleading and confusing.

    Technicals, although not perfect, are much more honest than fundamentals.

    By using fundamentals you create a bias, and many times, in fact most times, an incorrect one.

    Let your only bias be price.

    FoN
     
    #37     Aug 31, 2011
  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    At $7 gasoline, the current idiots in Washington will have no choice but to reign in the Fed, as they will need a scape goat. Obama will never get re-elected with gas that high. Never.
     
    #38     Aug 31, 2011
  9. Rep. Michele Bachmann is promising to get the price of gasoline back below $2 a gallon if she is elected president.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communi...promises-to-low-gas-prices-below-2-a-gallon/1

    :D
     
    #39     Aug 31, 2011
  10. #40     Aug 31, 2011