Why is no one talking about the S&P500 P/E ratio?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by MrDODGE, Aug 12, 2009.

  1. kashirin

    kashirin


    Actually if Fed not lowered rates we would not have burst in oil prices which might ease or even prevent recession and financial collapse

    the same true is now - zero rate will eventually (within 1-2 years) will bring new wave of commodity inflation which will depress economy again
     
    #31     Aug 13, 2009
  2. TGregg

    TGregg

  3. Daal

    Daal

    lol. So if the fed had not lowered rates then the GLOBAL real estate and credit bubble would have a perfect soft landing, GDP would've been flat and no one would lose a job? You cant make this stuff up
     
    #33     Aug 13, 2009
  4. Equity prices, in particular equity futures, are forward look looking. What's the point of buying a company for what they made last year? You don't own the company yet so you don't participate in the profits. If I'm going to buy a company, I want to know what the earning potential is. What can I earn as an owner. What the previous owner earned is a barometer, but does not necessarily correlate with future returns.
     
    #34     Aug 13, 2009
  5. And likewise, the ONLY country that will suffer hyperinflation is the USA all by themselves!!! Ireland, Japan, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Latvia, Romania, India, Iceland will all be just fine. Soft landing :cool:
     
    #35     Aug 13, 2009
  6. acepowerdrive

    acepowerdrive Guest

    the FED is giving itself too much credit for growing the economy.

    ultimately the economy will have to grow by it's own merit.


    interest rates were 15% in 1982 adn 10% in 1989


    so interest rates won't make a damn thing difference in the long run or actually worse. people still won't buy homes or cars even if interest rates was 0% as for stocks/// p/e just goes higher reduce demand for stocks.

    the fed artificially stimuluated the economy in 2002/2003 and banks lend recklessly in trying to stimulate the housing sector and this is what you get. people paid too much for homes they can't afford. and all the money was pumped into stock market speculation...meanwhile the gov't got deeper into debt from the war etc.

    the only thing the consumer which is demand was higher prices for everything like gas,homes,stocks, food and wages stagnant and worse laid off....

    the economy is demand driven.

    people can't afford homes cause it's too expensive ,and people won't buy stocks that are going to go bankrupt or decreasing in earnings and have no future growth....

    i don't need the FED or gov't to tell me what the price should be. the only benefactors of higher prices are current owners of assets and when did do unload there are no takers.

    utlimately the price of homes is determined by incomes and stocks determined the earnings and management of the company

     
    #36     Aug 13, 2009
  7. If they leave energy out to understate inflation, then why do they also leave it out when energy prices decline? If they're fudging the numbers to show low inflation, surely they would want to include it at that time.
     
    #37     Aug 13, 2009
  8. This is true. Operating earnings are supposed to be the core earnings power of the company. Stocks are "supposed" to reflect the actual earnings power of the company. This does not include write-offs and other one time related items.
     
    #38     Aug 13, 2009
  9. Especially as "Daal" points out, coming out of a huge recession where there was tremendous cost-cutting going on by corporate America.

    Thank You.
    :)
     
    #39     Aug 13, 2009
  10. Forward P/E is the only P/E that matters. That's why a company can produce a good quarter with good numbers, but the stock gets smashed when they lower guidance. Historical P/E is just that, historical.
     
    #40     Aug 13, 2009