Why is margin that high on VIX calendars?

Discussion in 'Options' started by Marcelino, Apr 20, 2021.

  1. Marcelino

    Marcelino

    This is with Interactive Brokers.

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  2. Overnight

    Overnight

    10 IB

    20 VIX

    If 20 does not work, goto 10.

    That's the extent of my BASIC programming skills, heh.
     
  3. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    You're going to think the answer is strange, but because they are European style it's not treated as a true calendar. You can't exercise the May if the April gets assigned. Same issue with SPX.
     
  4. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    not European because listed index options would get netted but the fact is they have completely different underlying.
     
  5. ajacobson

    ajacobson

  6. guru

    guru


    Because those calendars are the most dangerous calendars that you can buy. Some brokers don’t even allow these.
    You can lose a lot on the first expiring leg when it goes up a lot, while the 2nd leg may not move too much. You are playing with fire without understanding what you’re doing.
     
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  7. your short the front month.. hence the margin
     
  8. 7k margin for a silly 1 lot? haha

    Even in the front, that's beyond cray cray. To go debit you'd need a 70 handle inversion in the futures. mmmkay :banghead:
     
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  9. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    Tee one up in an American option and you'll see the huge difference.
     
  10. guru

    guru


    This is not just about the margin, but about keeping ignorant people away from trading dangerous stuff without understanding it. Some brokers lost $millions by allowing people to trade VIX calendars:
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB123695294636919681
     
    #10     Apr 20, 2021