why is iron condor ever a good idea?

Discussion in 'Options' started by 1a2b3cppp, Sep 2, 2018.

  1. 10% profit, 15% loss, on margin.
     
    #31     Sep 3, 2018
  2. Who conducted the study? What is the sample size? How did they exit? Stop loss, on market bid? There are a lot of nuances. Aot of research is meant to push a certain narrative... That why research and backtesting is so key (especially your own stats)
     
    #32     Sep 3, 2018
  3. Perhaps you missed the 11 winners 1 loser part. And, yes I know you can't verify my experience. Properly managed means following your plan. My plan with IC's is 10% profit and 15% max loss targets (less than 15% loss is OK). Rolling the wing when the deltas of the short strike double.
     
    #33     Sep 3, 2018
  4. Also losing 15% 22 ‰of the time .. Is not that great. Especially since I bet your losses are more than 15,% per trade. Real life is probably closer to 20... Mm also like to gun for stops, so that's an issue too
     
    #34     Sep 3, 2018
  5. destriero

    destriero

    An ATM put or call is 50D absent rates. WTF are you sourcing a one lot 30D IC? You cannot approach 30D by using an ATM leg. You cannot structure a one lot 30D IC that's ***OTM***. Sure you can go deep ITM on one of the verticals, but that's hardly 70% prob, now is it?
     
    #35     Sep 3, 2018
  6. destriero

    destriero


    Perhaps you missed my flawless math that states 11/12 times you win all the time.
     
    #36     Sep 3, 2018
  7. C'mon. I'm with Elite Traders!!!! A 30 delta spread has a +70% chance of finishing OTM. Managing winners improves those odds. Are you going to tell me that you can't beat that holding to expiration?
     
    #37     Sep 3, 2018
  8. destriero

    destriero

    Using the 30D C/P as the short outside combo for Sep21:

    Sep21 2850/2870/2935/2955 is 7.90 last; risking 12.10. 5D at inception. 30? Please show us a IC where you can structure it OTM and approach 30 deltas at inception. You cannot.
     
    #38     Sep 3, 2018
  9. destriero

    destriero


    I will gives you monies if you can show us a one-lot 30-delta OTM iron condors right now...
     
    #39     Sep 3, 2018
  10. destriero

    destriero


    1. You're off your meds. 2. What about the IC mentioned above! it's only a 5D so it's got a 95% probability, right? 3. WTF are you finding 30-delta iron condors?!
     
    #40     Sep 3, 2018