Why is deflation bad?

Discussion in 'Economics' started by noob_trad3r, Aug 2, 2010.

  1. All things in the universe have a good and a bad side, axiomatically. It depends which one affects you or which one you need. Bastardized capitalism as in the US and Oligarchic socialism in Europe are the two opposites, Bastardized capitalism likes inflation and Oligarchic socialism likes deflation. Hence, the conflict between the US and Germany in executing monetary policy. Simply put, when deflation occurs, cash is king and the Oligarchs of Europe thrive, they buy everything, whilst they enforce a police state. This is not what US likes because things can get out of control. The choice has to do with how you control the masses basically. US and China will choose inflation and Europe deflation.
     
    #21     Aug 2, 2010
  2. morganist

    morganist Guest

    I think the alteration needed to fix the deflationary gap would have little affect. I also think the business cycle idea prevents the recovery. Deflation makes borrowing costly that in turn prevents recovery.
     
    #22     Aug 2, 2010
  3. piezoe

    piezoe

    Sadly that other person will be precluded from competing. The easiest way to make a great deal of money is to enjoy a monopoly or be a member of a cartel and be selling a service that your customer can't refuse.
     
    #23     Aug 2, 2010
  4. piezoe

    piezoe

    That would depend on how you define wealthy. To fall in the top 1% of incomes you need an income of a little over 400K/year. People with incomes below this amount pay about 60% of the government's income tax revenue and those in the top 1% pay the other 40 %.

    /www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html

    It is somewhat of a myth that the poor pay no income taxes as long as we agree to include the indirect inflation tax in the total of what they pay to the government out of their income. No one, not even the poor, escapes the inflation tax!. There is little difference between the government reaching into my pocket and taking a dollar versus making the ten spot in my pocket buy only 9$ worth of stuff. But obviously one method of grabbing that buck is far more politically savvy then the other.
     
    #24     Aug 2, 2010
  5. So much talk about Deflation now in the news. I still think Deflation is needed since our products come from china.
     
    #25     Aug 11, 2010
  6. And you still don't understand the economics of deflation.
     
    #26     Aug 11, 2010

  7. Well I do not see the problem if Nike shoes are made in china, they should not cost 50 dollars for a pair.

    If a GM auto is made in mexico, it should be cheaper not more expensive.

    All this stuff made in China,india,mexico should be cheaper not more expensive.
     
    #27     Aug 11, 2010
  8. There is so much more to deflation than the cost of your Nike shoes...it is certainly not simply about consumer prices contracting.

    By the way, if those same Nike shoes were made in the USA they would cost you even more.
     
    #28     Aug 11, 2010
  9. How so? Those 50 dollar nikes cost 2 bucks a pair total, 48 dollar profit.

    Made in the USA lets say the cost to build etc.. is 30 dollars, they can still sell for 50 and pocket 20 bucks.

    But sell more Nikes because people have jobs and can afford them.

    Sort of like the Henry Ford philosophy.

    The only reason prices stayed where they have been is due to extreme credit expansion. Thats done, Americans are tired of the ratrace.
     
    #29     Aug 11, 2010
  10. zdreg

    zdreg

    that is what a business cycle is about. a business cycle exists to wipe out the previous excesses and misallocations of resources. governments don't believe this. they continue to inflate bubbles till eventually there is a large bubble that gov'ts cannot prevent from busting. then the pain is much greater than if natural forces had prevail.
    that is why since the fedral reserve has been created the US has suffered from inflation. in the period before the creation of the Fed the US had price stability.
     
    #30     Aug 11, 2010