Why is anyone other than self-involved rich Americans supporting the political Right?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Gabfly1, Mar 18, 2011.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

    Alberta works despite conservative rule because of the oil & gas sector. That also explains how much more unethical and incompetent governments around the world manage to persist in power.

    We're on the verge of a unified theory here, I think.

    ; )
     
    #61     Mar 21, 2011
  2. Hello

    Hello

    That theory would be fine and dandy in my opinion, if Saskatchewan which is right next door didnt have just as many natural resources, and if Saskatchewan wasnt a steaming pile of shit which is in debt up to its eyeballs, due to anti-business policies enacted by liberal governance.

    The conservatives have run Alberta for 40 years its pretty safe to say that it is fair to give them the blame/credit for whatever happens to their citizens.

    The other thing Alberta did a couple years ago, when they were running a large surplus was cut a cheque to each person who lived there, as opposed to using the opportunity to expand government.

     
    #62     Mar 21, 2011
  3. Hello

    Hello

    Yeah i understand what you are saying, basically you are saying that Obama gets a free pass for the economy in the states, but that it was infact the conservatives in Canada who also managed to somehow create a credit/housing bubble, when they only had MINORITY control for 2 years before the bottom fell out of the economy, it is a glaringly obvious double standard.

    Im curious what legislation you think the conservative party in Canada managed to pass in the 2 years they ran the country which was able to completely ruin the economy in canada and also caused a gigantic credit bubble. Im also curious how you believe they were able to enact this legislation given the fact that Harper always had a minority government which means he required support from the left in order to get anything done.

    The bottom line is that there is no way right now for Harper and the conservative to cut the government, the left would simply block it and call an election, the rules for how minority governments work in Canada basically make a minority government useless.
     
    #63     Mar 21, 2011
  4. Let us set aside your apparently missing the starkly different baggage each of the two countries' leaders accepted at the time of their respective arrivals. So are you saying that, since 2006 when he took office, Harper's leadership had no measurable impact on Canada?
     
    #64     Mar 21, 2011
  5. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    You're actually discussing, dare I say it, Canadian politics?

    Are you feeling OK? Can I get you an aspirin?
     
    #65     Mar 21, 2011
  6. Hello

    Hello

    Im saying that the way minority governments work in Canada is basically useless, due to the ability of the parties who arent in power to simply call for an election if the party in power doesnt appease all of the other parties.
     
    #66     Mar 21, 2011
  7. Ricter

    Ricter

    Well, if you're going to bring in SK (you overstate their debt trouble, it's improving), then we have to bring in another variable, the environment. You can still eat the fish you take out of northern SK lakes. So, I concede your point on the economy, and hope you'll concede mine that pro-business is typically not pro environment.
     
    #67     Mar 21, 2011
  8. Crispy

    Crispy

    It is redundant to state that anybody supporting any political party is self involved.

    But, go ahead and argue away...its kinda funny.
     
    #68     Mar 21, 2011
  9. Hello

    Hello

    I never would have argued the environmental impact to begin with, so yes i will gladly concede the point that there is a large environmental impact in running a stronger economy, and it is particularly large when considering what the Alberta Oil sands are doing. Saskatchewan's northern lakes are clean, due to the fact that most of them are used by very few people, and the areas around them generally arent used for business interests either, however you still would not want to eat a fish which was caught out of the north or south saskatchewan river.

    I used to fish in the northern lakes in Saskatchewan every single summer, so i am familiar with it, i used to go to Missinippe(look that one up on the map), which is an hour north of LaRonge, or basically as far north as the road takes you. Nothing is more beautiful then the Northern Canadian Shield in the summer time. I love doing shore lunch and cooking up some fresh walleye on an island on one of those northern lakes in the summer.

    And yes Saskatchewans debt is improving, and that also happens to perfectly coincide with when a conservative took over in Saskatchewan.

     
    #69     Mar 21, 2011

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    Fair question Gab

    Many reasons;
    chiefly
    [a]Judeo Christian foundation. No building lasts long without a good foundation.

    ''Socialism is an attempt to make history without God'' Dietrich Bonhoffer wrote; of course the national socialists[''NAZI'' killed him

    [c]Capitalists if consistant would all support the right;
    its not so much right & left,
    its right & wrong. Nice right trend last US elections[lawgivers, gov, impeached some judges.......]

    Thanks,
    murray TT
     
    #70     Mar 21, 2011