Why I don't short

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Steve Ladd, Feb 9, 2022.

  1. %%
    YES;
    and if we get part of things like Charles Shultz/Snoopy Cartoon Business , he did much better than 97-99%............................................................................................:D:D Not sure how long it took him to do that.
    [ I did not do a anywhere near that in JAN, even if we divide by 12 months]:caution:
     
    #31     Feb 10, 2022
  2. smallfil

    smallfil

    Yes, the whole premium is at risk on a worst case scenario. However, you can close the position if it is not working out. So, I can close an options trade if say, I lose half of the premium amount. Yes, that 85% is on invested capital so, whatever the premium, you got the premium back plus 85% of that option premium. Today, I closed a trade and got 91% for 1 month holding. On an annualized basis that is 91% x 12 = 1,092% on invested capital. Also, had a losing trade that I closed and kept 60% of the capital. I lost 40% of it which is fine. There are times I lose the entire premium but, more often than not, I save a good chunk of capital from losing trades to put into another trade. That next trade could also, be a big winner---way larger than the 85% or 91%.
     
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    #32     Feb 10, 2022
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    OLD magazine \Tech Analysis of Stocks & CO.............................................................;
    Carley , female futures broker, disclosed 20 to 1 leverage with futs/ 3x ETFs 3 to 1 leverage.
    Good warning \she could have noted 2 x ETfs or SH which is no leverage.
    I like some invesrse ETFs\except the way they profit mostly on spikes + sharp rallies/ but that part of it...........................................................................................
    And they keep me from messing with barely profitable or profitable longs............................................................Like SCHW warns ''NOT suitable for all investors'':D:D:D:D:D,:caution::caution::caution:
     
    #33     Feb 12, 2022
  4. GotherL

    GotherL

    I take calls when market is uptrending and puts when the market is downtrending.

    You will get burned trying to play one side when the market isn't going in your direction.
     
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    #34     Feb 12, 2022
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  5. %%
    Sure can;
    stop losses keep the main trend heat helpful....................
    Including but not limited tp cash ETFs, 2x ETFs, 2xinvesrseETFs may help/something like a short except never can get squeezed. NOT suitable for all investors/:D:D
     
    #35     Feb 14, 2022
  6. Jdesey

    Jdesey

    well, do not shut the door on any strategy. I have an edge for shorting. I use puts to keep maximum loss under 100%, you only need one runaway short to teach you that. For whatever reason I have a skill to find stocks that will go down in the short term. My win rate is 68% on shorts. there is an old saying,,, "stocks take the stairs up and the elevator down" At this time I am almost exclusively a short side trader.
     
    #36     Feb 19, 2022