Why I did not get any rebates

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Dna7272, Aug 27, 2021.

  1. qlai

    qlai

    Exchanges have to pay for network bandwidth as well, so it makes sense that they offload some of the cost. Each access port supports limited amount of messages per second and if you exceed that, you need to purchase additional port.

    http://nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=PriceListTrading2#connectivityoep
     
    #51     Aug 28, 2021
  2. qlai

    qlai

    Which exchange did you use?
     
    #52     Aug 28, 2021
  3. Dna7272

    Dna7272

    Nasdaq
     
    #53     Aug 28, 2021
  4. qlai

    qlai

  5. Dna7272

    Dna7272

    #55     Aug 28, 2021
  6. qlai

    qlai

    They can use Smart Routers to split large order across exchanges and price levels.
     
    #56     Aug 28, 2021
  7. JSOP

    JSOP

    When I said "liquidity-removing", I meant "liquidity-adding" in my post. Just replace all instances of "liquidity-removing" to "liquidity-adding" and everything would make more sense. Apologize for the confusion.
     
    #57     Aug 28, 2021
  8. piezoe

    piezoe

    OK. Thanks. I thought later that must be what you meant.
     
    #58     Aug 28, 2021
  9. JSOP

    JSOP

    It didn't make sense to me either. Why would exchanges refuse to accept orders when it adds to their liquidity? I don't believe or agree with exchanges charging for canceling orders either. There are measures that are there to discourage spoofing and layering but every trader is entitled to cancel orders at any time when it no longer serves its trading purpose or due to innocent mistakes. It is outrageous that every single trader is forbidden to cancel orders that it sent to the market.

    And with regards to brokers internalizing orders, they shouldn't be allowed to do so. This causes direct conflict of interest against their clients by trading against them despite disclosures. To me, brokers are obligated to send client orders to be executed on exchanges at all times. I agree with you that it is shameful how stock and option brokerages have now become unscrupulous forex brokers too even with the existence of central exchanges.
     
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    #59     Aug 28, 2021
  10. JSOP

    JSOP

    I don't buy their excuses especially that the orders that I sent to the exchanges were never extremely far from the NBBO; they were always just at most 10's and 20's of cents away from the NBBO. There is no reason for them to hold my orders on their servers unless the exchanges are closed even if my order price is extremely far away from the NBBO. And honestly an order that is close to the NBBO has just as much chance of getting canceled by the sender as a one that's far away from the NBBO. It's ridiculous that the broker now wants to play psychologist to decide how likely a trader is to cancel his orders based on the order's price. LOL And it's even more interesting that this "bug" never works the other way of mistaking a liquidity-removing order to be liquidity-adding and gives the trader the rebates for a market order when it's supposed to charge the trader. I mean if this "liquidity flag is a mess" then it should be a "mess" for both ways, don't you think? And yet it's always flagging liquidity-adding orders to be liquidity-removing...

    So yeah like I said before brokers are just screwing us to make more money, even if it's not their intention but that's what they are doing. The margin is thin so they are trying to make it thick or at least thicker. LOL
     
    #60     Aug 28, 2021