"..Initial tests have people saying it even tastes like beef." i was sure it would tastes like chicken!!
You gotta try them, totally addicting. I've dropped from 235 to 222 at 1500 cals. I've had to substitute hydrolyzed whey with BCAA (Ajinomoto) to keep cals down. I am dropping about 2lbs every 10 days. I've lost some muscle as it's apparent in my lifts. Thanks for asking.
Where did I say vegans eat natural game? I don't know of anyone defining a vegan diets like that. Maybe if you were foraging full time for vegetation to eat you would get enough b12 from the soil. Personally, fond of washing my produce, I supplement it. There is no reason a person eating a whole food plant diet need be deficient in any of the other nutrients you mention.
I was replying to this post, you stated: Vegans do not eat any amount of food products of animal origin. The "vegan argument" is to refuse animal food because they feel even a small amount is harmful. That any amount is harmful, and that eating animals is immoral. Where is the evidence for this? Adding the proper proportion of lean meat to the diet improves the nutritional quality of the meal. Lean meat improves the essential amino acid profile of the meal complementing the amino acids that are deficient in plant matter. The end result is protein of a higher quality. (as well as quantity) Regardless of these facts, vegans still refuse to acknowledge these facts. They cling to their irrational philosophy and stubbornly refuse to acknowledge the evidence. No omnivore here is suggesting eating large amount of fatty and processed animal products do you suggest eating only carrots, for example? Of course you don't. A variety of plant matter is advised and even required; adding a little lean meat further enhances the nutritional quality of the meal. Meat offers a bit more protein and provides AA's that complement the deficient AA's of plant matter. As well provides ample B vitamins, zinc and a more biologically available form of iron (heme iron). Vegans couldn't care less they ignore these facts rather prefer to foolishly adhere to their afactual philosophy. Adding lean meat and fish makes for the nutritious meal.
This is very good advice as there is no much diference in protein content between diferent kinds of beans and rice anyway. Thanks to other posters for great nutritional links with protein values . These links are extremely helpful to myself and others . Thanks again.