Cows have 2 stomachs to derive nutrition from difficult-to-digest grasses. "Greens" are not all grasses. http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/natural.html "The meat-eating reader already has half a dozen objections to this before s/he's even read the rest of the article, and I will address those objections specifically, but first let me address them generally: It's human nature to want to feel that what we're doing is right, proper, and logical. When we're confronted with something that suggests that our current practices are not the best ones, it's uncomfortable. We can either consider that our choices may not have been the best ones, which is extremely disturbing, or we can reject that premise without truly considering it, so that we don't have to feel bad about our actions. That's the more comfortable approach. And we do this by searching our minds for any arguments we can for why the challenge must be wrong, to justify our current behavior. This practice is so common psychologists have a name for it: cognitive dissonance. Think about that for a moment: Our feeling that our current actions are correct isn't based on our arguments. Rather, our actions come first and then we come up with the arguments to try to support those actions. If we were truly logical, we'd consider the evidence first and then decide the best course of action. But often we have it in reverse, because it's too difficult to accept that we might have been wrong. Vegan bodybuilders shatter the myth that vegans are skinny and malnourished. This is particularly true when it comes to vegetarianism. It's easy to identify because the anti-vegetarian arguments are usually so extreme, compared to other kinds of discourse. A person who would never normally suggest something so fantastic as the idea that plants can think and feel pain, will suddenly all but lunge for such an argument when they feel their meat-eating ways are being questioned, and they're looking for a way to justify it. It's human nature. I used to be in the same position as most readers probably are now. Long ago my eating habits were challenged by a book I ran across in the library. I didn't want to consider it fairly, because I wanted to keep eating meat. I'd grown up eating it, and I liked it. And there was another reason: I'd grown up in a small farming community raising and killing chickens. Accepting the book's premise really meant that I'd have to admit that I might not have made the best choices. So I came up with various weak defenses to justify my behavior. But deep down I knew I was kidding myself, and practicing a form of intellectual cowardice. When I considered the arguments honestly, I stopped eating animals. There was really no other logical choice. That was 25 years ago and it was absolutely the best decision I ever made. So I challenge you: stop trying to figure out ways that I "must" be wrong even before you've bothered to read the rest of this article. Instead, read it, and actually consider it rather than reflexively trying to come out with ways to dismiss it out of hand. You can certainly still disagree after you've considered all the evidence -- but not before." I realize this is a lengthy article, not a blogger's set of easy-to-digest sound bites, but hopefully the angry omnivores here can take the time to read the entire article via the link above, as I've taken time to read and research the references you provided to me.
Anabolic steroids. There are many vegan sources of supplemental protein. Granted, they all suck, but Beckles ingested a ton of vegetarian protein powders while competing. I doubt anyone can locate a competitive male bodybuilder who is also a dietary vegan. Shatter the myth lol. The myth is that there ARE any vegan BBers.
Her B/P is 90/60, TCHOL <130 and she trades OIL triangles and BO's within 10 tick stops with great success. Can't get more perfect than that.
@ NoDoji You still don't get it: CARBS = SUGAR ALL carbs are treated athe same & broken down into glucose in the blood by the body This is basic biochemistry. There is no debate about this. So these carbs are all broken down into glucose: complex carbs, hi/lo glycemic, oranges, peaches, corn syrup, grains, flour, rice, candy, snacks, cereal... Yet you still think your "complex carbs" are different from refined carbs. Hilarious! Why don't you say what your fasting blood glucose level reading is? You've already mentioned everything else. Tell us how perfect it is. Anyway, the important reading is not the snapshot-fasting-in the-morning reading. It doesn't tell you the efficiency of the pancreas or insulin resistance in respoonding to geeting the BGL down as a result of a carb (sugar) meal The important info is the EFFICIENCY (of the pancreas/insulin resistance) in how quickly the BGL returns to the baseline reading after consuming a typical carb meal. You get that by measuring your BGL every say 10 min & plotting the readings on a graph over your waking hrs. For ex. in a 20 yr old, let's say his baseline fasting BGL reading is 100. After drinking a glass of orange juice (carbs), the reading might peak at 170, after 20 mins. It might return to the baseline in the next 45 mins. Now, roll forward, same person @ age 30. It now takes 1 hr 15 min for the BGL to return to the baseline level (by now his baseline BGL would also have crept up higher due to aging) Now, roll forward, same person @ age 40. It now takes 1 hr 45 min for the BGL to return to the baseline level... Now, roll forward, same person @ age 50. It now takes 2 hr for the BGL to return to the baseline level... You see - with increase in age, it now takes longer b/c his pancreas is working less efficently (wear & tear) and/or the body becomes more insulin resistant. The upshot is this means for the SAME carb meal consumed, the BGL is elevated (anything exceeding baseline BGL) for LONGER period of time than when younger. And as we know, this means longer period for GLYCATION = cell destruction In any case eating carbs (sugar) causes all these hormones to be needlessly producedrun thru the body (BAD): insulin, cortisol, adrenaline.
(check out the link which has the full article with pictures/diagrams: http://skinnyforgood.com/?p=385) @ NoDoji (I'm sure you will be refuting the biochemical process of GLYCATION & denying it really exists. Glycation is something carb/vegans/vegetarians don't know about or don't talk about) This explains how & why your friend ended up blind as a DIRECT RESULT of diabetes (& not high protein/low carb diet) ----------------------------------- http://skinnyforgood.com/?p=385 Protein Molecules (tissue/cells/neurons) + Sugar Molecule = Glycated Protein AGEs (Glycation end products) love to stick together â literally â congregating in places like the eye tissue of diabetics, causing cataracts and loss of sight. AGEs are also attracted to collagen tissue, accumulating in the skin as you age and, again, especially if someone has diabetes; when AGEs cross-link with collagen, the skin becomes less elastic which is why many diabetics can appear older than their years. âDiabetes can be thought of as a form of accelerated aging,â notes Taubes (p.193). AGEs also make the heartâs arteries stiff â which means, under enough pressure, instead of expanding and contracting like a balloon (which is how a young or healthy heart responds to changes in blood pressure), the stiffened arteries will simply burst. ----------------------------------- (no wonder vegetarians/vegans skin looks like crap & they look older than their years) (this is why with diabetes due to their weakened immune system, other diseases which would not affect healthy people have a high prevalence of success: cancer, Alzheimers, arthritis, kidney disease, heart disease etc) People, keep on downing high carb foods that do little but elevate blood glucose levels, like: "complex carbs", "low glycemic" carbs, bread, smoothies, peaches, oranges, pasta, snacks, cheetos, soda drinks....actually all carbs...yummy @ NoDoji Of course, you will feel "great" & "full of energy" Of course anyone would - that's b/c blood glucose is elevated almost all of their waking hrs! (BAD) OTOH there will be payback later on, But you can't "feel" the destructive side effects: your tissues & cells are being destroyed (weakened immune system/accelerated aging/prevalence to other diseaeses) in all that time during elevated blood glucose levels too! It will take its toll sooner than later. NoDoji's History: Cancer - check Arthritis - check Alzheimers - ???? ----------------------------------- AGEs also play a starring role in Alzheimerâs (http://skinnyforgood.com/?p=385) AGEs are strongly implicated in being involved in the Alzheimers process Amyloid plaques found in Alzheimers brain cells are glycated protein binded with neurons (brain cells). Result is waste debris that is not removed. Brain cells are rendered useless. Loss of neurons = Alzheimers/Dementia (Note: once you lose neurons - which store bits of your memories like a hard drive - those memories are gone forever) ----------------------------------- Glycation does not occur in a vacuum. Glycation ONLY happens in a High Blood Sugar environment = CARBS = SUGAR High blood sugar = BAD BAD BAD Carbs = Sugar = Yummy (bacteria love them + cancer cells need sugar for Mitosis) = Glycation = exacerbate Diabetes/Alzheimers/Cancer ----------------------------------- High sugar consumption strongly implicated in Breast Cancer http://skinnyforgood.com/?p=385 Sugar consumption is related to & probably responsible for at least 35% of myriad cancers â colon, rectal, breast, ovarian, prostate, kidney, nervous-system, testicular â if not 70%! (Taubes, pp. 209-212) The fact is, some researchers actually realized as far back as the 1970s that the countries with the highest rates of diseases like breast cancer had the highest rates of sugar consumption (in descending order: the UK, the Netherlands, Ireland, Canada, Denmark), while Japan, Yugoslavia, Portugal, Spain & Itaty had the lowest mortality rates â and consumed the least amount of sugar. (Taubes, p. 211) ----------------------------------- Cancer needs blood sugar for cells to divide (mitosis) http://skinnyforgood.com/?p=385 When one Nobel Laureate science researcher semi-starved his lab rats, they lived a good 50% longer & growth of tumors was slowed remarkably. Why? They were lacking enough blood sugar to fuel mitosis, the process by which the cells divide and proliferate. Women with higher average amounts of blood sugar, ie. diabetics (Type 2 â meaning they produce insulin, but their cells donât respond well to it, causing an overproduction), have been shown to have more breast cancer, which have more receptors than healthy cells for insulin, because insulin helps all cells to grow & proliferate â both healthy & not. ----------------------------------- CONCLUSION: Carbs = Sugar = BAD BAD BAD There is NOTHING GOOD about having elevated blood sugar levels. NOTHING. ps. One day people will realize than the human body does not have the physiology & is not well equipped to consume sugar (carbs) in large quantities without unforeseen harmful side effects. (remember it's only in the last 150 yrs or so that humans have started to consume huge amounts of sugar (carbs). Clearly the human body has not evolved much at all in that short space of time to cope) If humans were 'natural' plant (= carbs) eaters, GLYCATION would not occur (only occurs with sugar molecules, which ALL carbs get converted into) - and certainly not be such a destructive process on a cellular level. It's like if humans were meant to concume alcohol as natural food source - there would not be bad side effects like hangovers, drunkedness plus obviously liver damage.
in addition, candida albicans LOVES carbs, they're its fuel. same as cancer- which is a fungus- it grows on sugar and carbs http://www.naturalnews.com/001812.html now go to your fancy cool restaurant with your family and order some delicious fries , burgers, potatoes and coke for kids
you can be a vegeterian AND you can eliminate carbs from your diet. just need to get most of the energy from healthy fats = oils. you dont need beef to supply zinc and selenium - pumpkin seeds,brazil nuts, almonds have enough of both. protein? eggs, spirulina and chlorella offer super digestable proteins. plus nuts, cottage cheese, kefir. healthy diet can be summarized in just 1 short line: artificial, processed = evil, natural = good. period
how about fruit juices? It's OK to eat fruit, since the fructose is dilute and offset by a high fiber content. But fruit juice and fruit juice concentrate have concentrated fructose with no fiber. It is not healthy to drink fruit juice.