Why Evangelicals Are Fooled Into Accepting Pseudoscience

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Free Thinker, Sep 23, 2011.

  1. stu

    stu

    Let's try again...

    the quote you've posted attributed to Stephen Hawking from his Book 'A Brief History Of Time' WAS EDITED.
    The quote had excluded from it, this crucial part in explanation about fundamental physical constants
    • " it is also possible that some or all of them vary from universe to universe or within a single universe."
    Hawking has constants as values that must be fined tuned thrown down the pan in 1988, simply because it is possible any or all of them can vary within a single universe.
    That also does away at a stroke with the false choice of multiverse or fine tuning assertion.

    All your cut & past quotes have been edited or selected out of context in one way or another to misrepresent what's actually being said. Just as the ones above.
    But you keep posting them without seemingly comprehending that copying quotes off of religious websites is not a good way to understand anything in the first place - especially science.



    That was my measured response, so in addition I'd just like to add how much of a clueless prick you must be to keep trolling out so much theistic pseudoscientific horseshit.
    Thankyou.
     
    #311     Nov 3, 2011
  2. Yeah, like the astronomical improbability that someone as STUpid as you is still in the gene pool.
     
    #312     Nov 3, 2011
  3. stu

    stu

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    #313     Nov 3, 2011
  4. This from the mental weakling who's so STUpid that he got the 96% / 4% split of dark matter & dark energy versus everything else BACKWARDS.

    Keep deluding yourself :p

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    #314     Nov 3, 2011
  5. jem

    jem

    You are a fool and a troll.

    1. your statement does not mean anything but that Hawking speculates the constants could change in 1988.. now cite me to the page so I can look it up.

    But the real question still is... does science have any proof the cosmological constant changes in our universe... or say any of the other constants mentioned by Rees? No... you are citing speculation to combat the conclusion of fine tuning.

    Plus and this is really the point.....

    2. I just gave you Hawkings writing from 2006. I not only cited to the paper... I linked to it. That is not cut and paste... that is the paper itself --- you lying troll. Try being truthful for once.


    That is the science from the scientist. He tells you plainly our universe appears finely tuned. He speculates it could appear that way because of a multiverse. That is the bottom line. If you wish to call him religious be my guest.
     
    #315     Nov 3, 2011
  6. STUpid "thinks" there's evidence that the fine-structure constant varies but he didn't even get the name right, let alone the facts.

    Recent observations evidence a fundamental physical constant, known as the fine structure alpha constant, the electromagnetic force, varying throughout the universe.
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3338075&#post3338075
     
    #316     Nov 3, 2011
  7. jem

    jem

    The discovery recently of the extreme fine-tuning of so many laws of nature could lead some back to the idea that this grand design is the work of some grand Designer. Yet the latest advances in cosmology explain why the laws of the universe seem tailor-made for humans, without the need for a benevolent creator.

    From Hawkings most recent book.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704206804575467921609024244.html

    Which confirms the thinking in his 2006 paper I linked to.

    Summary..

    Extreme fine tuning or multiverse.
    =
    Tuner or you can believe in an unseen, probably unverifiable idea to counter the evidence of a Tuner.
     
    #317     Nov 3, 2011
  8. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Ditto
     
    #318     Nov 3, 2011
  9. stu

    stu

    Head.
     
    #319     Nov 3, 2011
  10. stu

    stu


    ....because obviously you've nothing else.
     
    #320     Nov 3, 2011