Why Europe became a baby

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tom B, Jan 15, 2017.

  1. Tom B

    Tom B

    Commentary: Why Europe became a baby

    By John Lloyd Jan 13, 2017

    Has Europe been infantilised? Is it now less capable than other regions or nations of determining its future with the force and strength required to preserve the coherent governance and relatively high standards of living that it’s shown since the last war? That war, devastating as it was, seemed to teach a series of lessons on how to avoid more war, grow economies and remain a centre – even, the centre – of world power

    Were the lessons wrong? Here are some reasons for asking the question.

    For most of the post-war period, the states of Europe, both the majority within the European Union and the few which have remained outside, have been covered by a security umbrella held over our heads by the United States. Earlier this week, a U.S. armoured brigade disembarked in the northern German port of Bremerhaven: it will base itself in Poland, and spread out eastwards next month to the Baltics, Romania and Bulgaria. The tiny Baltic states – Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania – border Russia; the coasts of Romania and Bulgaria are on the Black Sea, which Russia controls.

    "Let me be clear,” said U.S. Air Force Lieutenant General Tim Ray, deputy commander of the U.S. European Command, as the tanks clanked on to Bremerhaven’s streets. “This is one part of our efforts to deter Russian aggression, ensure the territorial integrity of our allies and maintain a Europe that is whole, free, prosperous, and at peace". For decades, Europe’s instinct has been to send for the U.S. cavalry, once threatened. And the U.S. instinct has been to send them: it has, said General Ray, a “rock solid commitment to Europe”.

    The United States, at first reluctantly, has since the 1940s taken on the responsibilities of a hegemonic power with increasing enthusiasm: nowhere has that posture been more “‘rock solid”’ than in Europe. The Europeans have done their part – most (not all) are members of NATO, and contribute to its force levels. But most – including the major states of France, Germany and Italy – pay less than the agreed 2 percent of GDP on defense: the United States put in $650 billion in 2015, 3.61 percent of GDP. The Europeans are not free riders, but they are easy riders. The ride has suddenly become rougher.

    Europe, with Britain (2.21 percent of GDP spent on defense in 2015) as a partial exception, developed a worldview in keeping with its modest defense spending. It was a “post modern” view, one which transcended both the nation state and the multinational empires of the 19th and early 20th century – the last of these, the Soviet Empire, collapsing in the 1980s, seeming to put a last full stop to an era.

    Most European politicians, and U.S. liberals, endorsed the coming of the new era: the most active and subtle ideologist of the view was the British diplomat-cum-intellectual Robert Cooper, an adviser both to Tony Blair and to the European Union’s foreign policy chief (1999-2009), Javier Solana. In an influential essay in 2002, Cooper wrote that the main features of the post modern state were “breaking down of the distinction between domestic and foreign affairs; mutual interference in (traditional) domestic affairs and mutual surveillance; the rejection of force for resolving disputes; the growing irrelevance of borders; and security… based on transparency, mutual openness, interdependence and mutual vulnerability”.

    When U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry condemned Russia’s aggression in Ukraine in 2014, he said that “"You just don't in the 21st century behave in 19th century fashion by invading another country on completely trumped up pretext” – an echo of Cooper’s “rejection of force”. Yet it now sounds like the last blast of the trumpets of a defeated army: Russia, hardened by life in a tough geopolitical neighborhood, did invade Ukraine, on the pretext – not, in President Vladimir Putin’s mind in the least “‘trumped up”’ – that it is inseparably bound to Russia, while Putin and most Russians believe Crimea, annexed in 2014, has always been Russian. The annexation, as the University of California political scientist Daniel Treisman wrote, overturned “in a single stroke the assumptions on which the post–Cold War European order had rested”.

    Finally, many European leaders – again, excepting the British – at least publicly believed in a secular paradise, which would be a federal European state. Last summer, then-Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi invited German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Francois Hollande to meet on the island of Ventotene where, in 1941, Altiero Spinelli, then a prisoner of the Fascist government, wrote a manifesto calling for a united Europe. In later life, he became an EU commissioner in Brussels, where the building housing the EU’s parliament bears his name. The three leaders paid homage at his tomb: Renzi dismissed Britain’s recent vote for Brexit, and said that “Europe after Brexit will relaunch the powerful ideals of unity and peace, freedom and dreams”.

    Yet, like children unable to give concrete forms to their dreams, European leaders have taken only the most hesitant steps towards closer union. The growth and popularity of the nationalist parties of the right almost everywhere has imposed a kind of stasis on the continent’s politics: the hope is that in Dutch, French and German elections this year the nationalists will be defeated and the progress towards closer union re-started.

    Even if that happens, such a rekindling of the ideal will be hard to make concrete. This week, Germany’s former Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer wrote that “the EU should be preparing for some profound shocks. The incoming U.S. president, an exponent of the new nationalism, does not believe in European integration”, pointing out that Trump has suggested he may not uphold NATO treaties to protect any threatened member. Fischer’s antidote is a European military, developed by Germany and France: a project often mooted, never seriously pursued.

    Brexit, a shock all around, will combine with a Trump presidency to force the EU to put away childish things, and ask hard questions of itself. Infancy may be ending: always a hard transition.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-baby-commentary-idUSKBN14W2X1
     
  2. They could be in for some rude surprises. Trump is not going to allow Europe to free ride off us much longer. Germany is ok with flooding us with exports and we pay for their defense. Plus we get patronizing lectures from Merkel. Low hanging fruit for Trump.

    Europe does not face a threat from Russia, as desperately as the warmongers want to gin one up by staging our troops aggressively on Russia's borders. Why should we care more about protecting their borders than they do?

    And why are our elites apparently more concerned about protecting eastern european borders than our own southern border? Bring those troops home and put them where they are needed.
     
  3. piezoe

    piezoe

    Did I read this correctly, or was 2003 somehow not in the 21st Century? :rolleyes:
     
  4. Zzzz1

    Zzzz1

    How does the US pay for Germany's defense? Care to name some examples?

    Lol at your Russia comments. So the US election was hacked and influenced (aka rigged) by Russia (even Trump finally admitted) and you are claiming Europe does not have to fear a thing from Russia? Please amuse us more...

     
  5. Tom B

    Tom B

    Well, Kerry has a reputation of being smart, so it must be correct.:D
     
  6. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    In every MRE starting with WWII
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  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I think, but could be wrong, he is speaking to the fact that Germany does not spend the required 2% of it's GDP on NATO defense, whereas the US spends above and beyond. The argument could therefore be made that the US is subsidizing Germany (and a host of other countries that also fail to do so).

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    Germany's spending is also declining.

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  8. Zzzz1

    Zzzz1

    That argument would be valid if all members were on the same page, but I guess not every European nation sees arming itself to the teeth as the only way to survive and blossom. Also, not every country in Europe feels the need to move ever closer to Russia.

    The US still does not seem to get it. WWIII is already raging full scale but American politicians still lament missiles and traditional outdated weapons system. In case some still have not gotten the point, the war is all about information. And it increasingly looks like that the US with a decreasing number of Russian, Chinese, and European top immigrants is suffering from brain drain.

    Maybe it is just time for the US to overthink its whole commitment to Nato after all? Maybe Europe should simply defend itself.

     
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I'm not about to disagree with you on the outdated policy of US aggression. I'm hoping that changes in the new administration.

    But if all members aren't on the "same page" and Germany disagrees with the spending, perhaps they should have thought of that before signing up and committing to spend at that level?

    Trump is correct in his assessment that some members aren't paying their fair share - as that was the agreement. You and I can agree that the whole thing should be reassessed, but I think that's what Trump is saying.
     
  10. Zzzz1

    Zzzz1

    Agree, but I think we can also agree that today's age demands more flexible agreements and the ability to make adjustments. That is one of the big reasons why the UK will exit the EU (due to the inflexibility of many EU institutions). I think a 2% of GDP budget for defense is way too high for Central Europe. They are not surrounded my rouge states and hiring top IT/CS talent to combat today's advanced "weaponry" does not cost 2% of GDP, well, maybe Greek's GDP but certainly not Germany's.

     
    #10     Jan 16, 2017