There is a constant supply of threads that either show confusion about how to use TA or state emphatically ... 1) TA doesn't work 2) Day Trading doesn't work (which is really saying no form of analysis works intraday, so intraday set ups are somehow different from Eod of Day set ups 3) Their TA method used to work but the market has changed so TA doesn't work now 4) TA only works in hindsight 5) Add your reasoning This is a thread that that intends to offer... 1) Some help to those who struggle with TA 2) An opportunity for intelligent discussion for the skeptics who have tried TA and been disappointed 3) An equal forum for the cynics to air their views provided they prove their point by posting TA charting failures so we can see if there is a genuine problem and perhaps a solution. I don't mind critics of TA, in fact I want their contribution and they are very welcome so long as they substantiate their reasoning with chart examples of TA failures and stick to the point of the thread. I don't know everything about TA but I have been using it for almost 30 yrs and I have developed a lot of my own techniques so it is my take on TA. There will be other excellent TA users who will have a different approach and I welcome their contribution. Over 3 decades I have trained about 10 traders and all but 2 of them had many years trading experience, but I have never met a trader who didn't benefit from learning more about TA. The reason for posting this thread is that some experienced traders shy away from techniques that others deem essential and that is the nature of this game: TA is a vast storehouse of knowledge that few dig deep into. I have limited time but I will do what I can to offer some help to friend and foe alike, for taking a stand on TA brings both camps to the door. So hows about instead of the usual ET bitch-fest, let's deal with the real problems on TA and look to see if there is a solution that helps your trading. Mods can you please keep this thread on topic. Critics, cynics and skeptics are welcome so long as they post their charts to demonstrate why TA does not work. I know it is virtually impossible to convince a cynic to change their mind on anything, but if they substantiate from a chart how they have concluded after pains taking research why TA cannot work, then many others can benefit.