haha, I think you need to study what consciousness means in the scientific sense. You are relating it to the term commonly used in regular speech. They don't mean the same thing at all. Quantum consciousness postulates that all things in the universe are created through a universal consciousness, but this force does not exist as matter in this dimension. As for what it proves, it only demonstrates that our reality is created from something outside of ourselves. I never said that it proved Christianity. I said there is a lot more research to do from that starting point to come up with some answers. Like I said in my first post I can't write a thesis explaining the basics of these concepts in order to explain the more advanced things. If you don't even understand the theory of consciousness as it pertains to the physical universe then I don't know how you can expect me to explain the rest. There is your starting point, do with it what you will. You might have to open your mind a little though, and start with the basics.
When you say academics who believe this do you mean: Einstein, Plank, Bohm, Chalmers, Bernroider and just about every quantum and particle physicist from the last 70 years? If so then you would be correct.
what do you expect me to do with it? its bullshit. case closed. i figured as much but i expected a little more.
show me were einstein said he believed consciousness was an outside force. that would mean he believed in the supernatual. he clearly did not.
alright free thinker. but it would seem that your moniker doesn't represent your attitude towards knowledge. Although they contradict your narrow views of the universe these concepts are not controversial. I hope you realize you are acting just like the Christians you rally against. There is evidence to the contrary of your belief and instead of investigating and attempting to understand you merely brush it off and move on. Blissful ignorance. You should practice what you preach my friend.
you havent posted a shred of evidence. earlier you were wondering why christians get no respect. this is why. you claim bs and expect nonbelievers to just take your word for it. in any case whats the point. you started this by saying you could prove the christian god exists then you post some speculative crap and say this."I never said that it proved Christianity. I said there is a lot more research to do from that starting point to come up with some answers. ".
No what I said was that this one piece of information I am giving you does not prove Christianity. It is a starting place. I said you can continue the research from this point on your own. The information is out there. You might have to buy some books or go to your local university library, but it is definitely out there. It is far from speculative science. You were quoting Einstein left and right earlier but you obviously don't know much about his beliefs or the field that he dedicated his life too. Again, these aren't crazy theories, but maybe just a little more advanced than your normal high school physics.
I suppose if nothing I have said makes sense to you then we probably are not going to get anywhere. I'm sorry if you were somehow offended by what I am saying. I have given you a very real area of science to explore but you refuse to acknowledge it because it doesn't fit with your views. We are but men with finite minds, in a universe of infinite knowledge. You are going to need to get used to learning things that contradict your views because that isn't an excuse to shy away from them. In the future try to have a little more patience with those "ignorant Christians" because as far as I can tell your mind isn't much more open than theirs. I'll go ahead and let you have the last word. Your responses have become less and less logical but I know how desperately you want to be the last one to say something.