Why does Hamas fire rockets?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TorontoTrader2, Dec 27, 2008.

  1. Gaza relief boat carrying Cynthia McKinney rammed by Israelis David Edwards and Muriel Kane
    Published: Tuesday December 30, 2008

    An Israeli patrol boat intercepted a yacht carrying three tons of medical supplies to Gaza in international waters early on Tuesday as it attempted to run an Israeli blockade. According to those on board, the patrol boat accused the relief vessel of being involved in terrorist activity and then deliberately rammed it, forcing it to return to port in Lebanon.

    Among the yacht's 16 passengers were doctors, journalists, and human rights activists, including former Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-GA). McKinney spoke to CNN from Lebanon, telling John Roberts, "Our boat was rammed three times, twice in the front and once on the side."

    McKinney described as "outright disinformation" a statement by the Israeli Foreign Ministry which called the charge that the ramming was deliberate "absurd." According to the Israeli spokesman, the boat was struck as it attempted to outmaneuver the Israeli vessel.

    The Free Gaza movement, which sponsored the relief mission, explained in a press release, "This is the sixth boat that the Free Gaza movement has sent ... in a symbolic effort to end the seige of Gaza. These are small boats, and they do not cross into Israeli waters at all. This Israeli attack on the boat, which occurred in international waters, cannot be described as 'self defense' by any stretch of delusional imagination."

    "Our mission was a peaceful mission to deliver medical supplies," McKinney told CNN, "and our mission was thwarted by the Israelis -- the aggressiveness of the Israeli military."

    McKinney then appealed to President-elect Obama to "say something, please, about the humanitarian crisis that is being experienced right now by the people of Gaza." She referred to Martin Luther King's description of the United States as "the greatest purveyor of violence on the planet" and noted that "the weapons that are being used by Israel are weapons that are being supplied by the United States."

    McKinney has been known for her opposition to Israeli policies, which is blamed in part for her loss of her Congressional seat. According to the Washington Post, "In 2002, two Democrats in Congress with records of voting against Israel's interests -- Reps. Earl Hilliard of Alabama and Cynthia McKinney of Georgia -- faced primary opponents who received substantial support from Jewish donors. A majority of AIPAC board members gave to either McKinney's challenger or Hilliard's or both. Hilliard and McKinney lost."

    The full CNN story can be read here.


    This video is from CNN's American Morning, broadcast Dec. 30, 2008.
     
    #81     Dec 30, 2008
  2. Of course it's all interconnected.
    Geopolitics are huge complexes... intricate matters intersped with special interests and shady individuals as well.

    The fact still remains that you try to shun away from Israel being just like an apartheid state, while Kadima makes it official policy.

    I know the history of how Israel was formed, thank you.
    The Jewish settlers and zionists started fighting the British, using terrorist tactics until the British gave up.
     
    #82     Dec 30, 2008

  3. Thats pretty civilized. Like a boatload of keystone cops.
     
    #83     Dec 30, 2008
  4. No, you obviously didn't see it's interconnected or you wouldn't have written: "you try to slither your way into another topic of neighbouring tensions with other Arab states."

    If you think Israel's platform here is extreme:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kadima

    you should try living somewhere else over there as a Jew. Or even a regular citizen.

    You clearly know nothing about the region because your posts lack perspective and context.
     
    #84     Dec 30, 2008
  5. You mean this creature
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    She proceeded westward down the ground floor hallway and about halfway down the hallway was grabbed by United States Capitol Police officer Paul McKenna, who states that he had been calling after her: "Ma'am, Ma'am!"; at that time it is reported that McKinney struck the officer. Two days later, Officer McKenna filed a police report claiming that McKinney had struck "his chest with a closed fist."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_McKinney#Capitol_Police_incident


    On Sept. 28, 2008, at a press conference, McKinney announced that she had spoken with a constituent whose son was a National Guardsman. The constituent claimed her son had disposed of 5,000 bodies for the Department of Defense during the week of Huricane Katrina. She further claimed that the bodies were prisoners who had all been shot in the head and dumped in a Louisiana swamp. McKinney said that the story had been corroborated by anonymous "insider" sources
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_McKinney#Accusation_of_Murder_by_Department_of_Defense
     
    #85     Dec 30, 2008
  6. Not saying, but...

    In the wake of Israel's ongoing air strikes against Gaza, the Arab World is not only protesting Israel's actions, but also Egypt's.

    Bloomberg tells of the massive demonstrations against Egypt throughout the Arab world, as many are accusing the country of collusion with Israel in the attacks. The accusations, Bloomberg reports, are fueled by Hamas because of Egypt's reluctance to open the border between it and Gaza.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/30/arab-world-shows-anger-to_n_154348.html


     
    #86     Dec 30, 2008
  7. Really? The Arab street is enraged? No kidding?

    LOL, wake me up when it isn't. Usually it means Israel is doing something right. They should have rioted when Hamas refused to renew the ceasefire and started lobbing rockets into Israel.
     
    #87     Dec 30, 2008
  8. I've never known a time when the right wingers haven't been enraged about something...just listen to a day's worth of Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, Levin, etc.

    In any case, the "Arab world" may often be united in outrage, but I don't have a recollection of them acting in a unified political manner for quite a while, OPEC notwithstanding...

    Face it, the whole area (including Israel) operates from a tribal point of view.

     
    #88     Dec 30, 2008
  9. I've never known a time when the right wingers haven't been enraged about something...just listen to a day's worth of Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, Levin, etc.
    Why are you telling me that? I am not a right winger. Besides enraged or not I don't see right wingers burn Iranian flags, attack embassies (british embassy in Iran today), throw shoes at Putin. Even when they are "enraged" they act like civilized people, no comparison with the arab street.


    In any case, the "Arab world" may often be united in outrage, but I don't have a recollection of them acting in a unified political manner for quite a while, OPEC notwithstanding...
    True, they are good at yelling, rioting, hating, getting enraged and...and...and I am afraid that's about it.


    Face it, the whole area (including Israel) operates from a tribal point of view.
    the whole world operates from a tribal point of view. The french do, so do the Brits, the Irish, the Arabs, the Japanese, the Russians. Wanna change that? Jesus tried... good luck to you too.
     
    #89     Dec 30, 2008

  10. Why are you telling me that? I am not a right winger. Besides enraged or not I don't see right wingers burn Iranian flags, attack embassies (british embassy in Iran today), throw shoes at Putin. Even when they are "enraged" they act like civilized people, no comparison with the arab street.

    Ahhh, the "more civilized enragement" argument.

    LOL!!!


    the whole world operates from a tribal point of view.

    Hardly...
     
    #90     Dec 30, 2008