Why does Hamas fire rockets?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TorontoTrader2, Dec 27, 2008.

  1. As early as 8 December 1960, the CIA issued a report outlining Dimona's implications for nuclear proliferation, and the CIA station in Tel Aviv had determined by the mid-1960s that the Israeli nuclear weapons program was an established and irreversible fact.
    http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/

    At that time the program was well underway and Israel did not need either France or the US. Read the whole document my ignorant friend, at no point of time was the US involved in helping Israel develop nuclear weapons (it was in fact trying to interfere and stop the program).
     
    #121     Jan 1, 2009
  2. Again, an ounce of knowledge is dangerous for you.

    Does your history of US involvement in the Israeli nuclear program end in 1960?

    The Israelis aggressively pursued an aircraft delivery system from the United States. President Johnson was less emphatic about nonproliferation than President Kennedy-or perhaps had more pressing concerns, such as Vietnam. He had a long history of both Jewish friends and pressing political contributors coupled with some first hand experience of the Holocaust, having toured concentration camps at the end of World War II. Israel pressed him hard for aircraft (A-4E Skyhawks initially and F-4E Phantoms later) and obtained agreement in 1966 under the condition that the aircraft would not be used to deliver nuclear weapons. The State Department attempted to link the aircraft purchases to continued inspection visits. President Johnson overruled the State Department concerning Dimona inspections. Although denied at the time, America delivered the F-4Es, on September 5, 1969, with nuclear capable hardware intact. This is the beginning of how Israel became a functioning nuclear super power.

    Please grab a history book. You're starting to piss me off.
     
    #122     Jan 1, 2009
  3. that Israel is buying and using american aircrafts is not in dispute.




    It's this ignorant statement of yours that I disputed:
    Obviously delivery systems while important don't define nations as nuclear or non-nuclear powers - nuclear reactors do and the US had nothing to do with the Dimona reactor.


    I am gonna have to start charging you tuition fee soon.
     
    #123     Jan 1, 2009
  4. The Genociders have just lost TWO wars in one war: (The 1967 "Six Day War" 1967) and the 2008-2009 Gaza War (which is now at least 7 days old).

    Gaza Palestinians are 1.5 Million which is less than a half of 1 percent of arabs.

    Genociders used to proudly say, "we defeated all arab armies combined in six days".

    They have just been defeated by babies, women, civilians and unarmed people who are only half of one percent of all arab armies combined, while the army of genociders is 1000 more powerful compared to 1967.

    The difference between now and in the past, people have access to correct information even if we still have a lot of propagandists such as in here.

    The army of genociders kills babies and women, bombs houses, places of worship, hospitals. An army of savages.

    Babies, women, children, elderly, innocent civilians, and unarmed people in Gaza, you have just defeated the genociders who do not have the balls to go to fight your armed men in gaza, but rather chose to muder you in cold blood. But you have won!
     
    #124     Jan 1, 2009
  5. The details and history of Israel's nuclear weapons program is UNKNOWN outside of Israel and even there it's so highly classified the specifics are for all practical purposes nonexistent. Outside participants know bits and pieces but that's it and most of that is similarly classified.

    Anything publicly available is speculation and reputable history books say so.

    Remember the CIA's assessment of WMDs in Iraq? Why in the world would anyone think the "real deal" about this is in a history book or on the internet?
     
    #125     Jan 1, 2009
  6. Israel receives arms at no charge.

    American readers: here is a guy to whom you give the most sophisticated arms for NO CHARGE and he turns around and says you NEVER DID, and that he pays! Next time demand that the bastard be charged.
     
    #126     Jan 1, 2009
  7. http://www.mediafire.com/?cyhzzkntzoh
     
    #127     Jan 1, 2009
  8. #128     Jan 1, 2009
  9. 1. France is the country that showed them step by step how to do it.

    2. But who showed France how to do it step by step? The mighty United States of America. The ONLY place on the face of earth who knows how to innovate. This is one of the reasons why people love America. We love innovation, freedom, justice, standing for the weak and unjustly beaten, ..., etc.

    So, USA showed France all the details, and France later did the same for Israel. It is the student of the teacher, that taught the new student.
     
    #129     Jan 1, 2009

  10. Thank you honey for helping me deal with an ignoramus who stubbornly insists that
    Maybe he'll listen to you.
     
    #130     Jan 1, 2009