Why do people use Volume, Range and Tic charts?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by fearless9, Nov 13, 2006.

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  1. But Surf what is wrong to you is a learning curve to others.

    The bottom line is, that there is only the bottom line.
    Either you are consistently making money or you are funding someone elses operation.

    If I were to show you my style of trading you may well think that it is simplistic and somewhat crude and no doubt you may well suggest to me to give the price a little wiggle room and let it run.

    Now that is precisely what I will not do.
    And so my style is at loggerheads with many of my fellow learned Traders here on ET, but I seriously doubt anyone will criticise my bottom line.
     
    #341     Feb 22, 2007
  2. Those are Prime price oscillation points and are labeled in real time and are taken from the next fastest chart increment. See the beginning of the thread to see the parameters of my chart layouts. I call it nesting or perfect squares. Each chart is 7 times the speed of the next. This gives one a solid visual grasp of every oscillation in-between the extreme oscillations in price as it moves in any market but more importantly, the strength of each oscillation.
     
    #342     Feb 22, 2007
  3. thanks, fearless. well said--i have no issue with whatever works for anyone. i simply prefer methods that are testable and have an edge. odd sized tick charts and the like are not testable nor have any type of edge. there is nothing wrong with subjective trading, just understand what your doing.

    best surf
     
    #343     Feb 22, 2007
  4. Sure you do. You have an issue with what works for me or any one else that views the market under strict parameters.

    And you do not understand how the chart increments (they are Volume Bar Charts by the way and not Tick Charts) [you can't even get that right], or the parameters that create them show direction or strength so YOU CAN'T TEST WHAT YOU CAN'T COMPREHEND, LAYOUT OR PROGRAM.

    Personally I like objective trading to subjective trading but then you can't define that either.
     
    #344     Feb 22, 2007
  5. hey surf buddy how you do'in?

    hope those shorts are finally come'in for ya, me i be trade'in the oscillations on the shorter scalping time frame.

    why?

    well, i need to build up capital, because i'm also observing 6 different markets (spread across the currencies, interest rate, metals, energy and the financials) where I'm using ProfLogic's methods as laid-out in this thread and recording win after win (hey not for noth'in I got the idea from those rows you and he used to have back in the day) - but I'm a need about 50G's for that game.

    LOL, I should send ProfLogic a token dollar for his teachings.

    Jimmy Jam
     
    #345     Feb 22, 2007
  6. You remember, right Surf?

    Where you'd be Long a Currency Pair, and ProfLogic would come by and explain why your position wasn't going to work, and then your stop would get hit, or you'd bail? The same thing with the Financials (YM) and energy (Oil) ... over and over again? ... Remember :confused:

    Yeah, well, that's because he was looking at the Swing/Position frame and he knew how to read price action consistently, and he also knew how to cover if the move needed to be aborted (always at minimal losses)
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    So I figured why don't I just kick in the metals (man oh man ZG sure did make a nice move, now didn't it?) and a little interest rate derivative (to kinda ad a little spice in to the mix, ya know?), and I'd be set.
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    Last but not least, NOW might be a nice time to cover those Shorts that you've gone all-in on.

    Jimmy Jam
     
    #346     Feb 22, 2007
  7. tyler19

    tyler19

    Whats the higer time fram I watch?

     
    #347     Feb 22, 2007
  8. 2401 is slower for swing trading and 49 is faster for scalping. The 343 is just right for intraday.
     
    #348     Feb 22, 2007
  9. actually, i dont remember.

    we nailed the oil top after several trys and untill the last 6 months have been highly effective with the YM.

    Presently, the long oil trade is working nicely and the YM short is being held.

    sure, i make mistakes and bad trades---its what this game is all about.

    proflogic had a perfect track record posted on his site for years, now JJ you dont really believe it, do you?

    happy you learned from the discussion!

    best wishes,

    surf
     
    #349     Feb 22, 2007

  10. Your trading is subjective within your parameters-- as is everyone elses who is not strictly mechanical. stop obfusicating for marketing purposes. wake up and smell the coffee. is your method programable?, if not its subjective.

    surf
     
    #350     Feb 22, 2007
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